Is it time to Sunset FFXIV?

[Sensui]

I feel like the game (Devs, writers, etc..) has painted itself into a corner. Maybe it's time to focus on the next MMO and start over. This one isn't fun anymore and I don't know how we can recover from it. They whole formula that it was built upon is stagnant. The game shouldn't drop to a lull in things to do and play time just in a few months after the release of a major expansion.. the brand is suffering.

[Swordsman]

I feel like the game (Devs, writers, etc..) has painted itself into a corner. Maybe it's time to focus on the next MMO and start over. This one isn't fun anymore and I don't know how we can recover from it. They whole formula that it was built upon is stagnant. The game shouldn't drop to a lull in things to do and play time just in a few months after the release of a major expansion.. the brand is suffering.

I don't think it is quite yet. They can still salvage this game if they actually give it a decent effort over the next few expacs. Who's to say that SE will shake things up for a new MMO anyway? Lol what happens if we get the same old repackaged game with a fresh coat of paint on it?

[Kaurhz]

Focusing on a new MMO is just a much bigger risk and much more difficult than it would be to actually try and make XIV work better.

If I am honest though, no amount of direction change is really going to overcome the sheer lack of care put into some of the fundamental and core parts of this game.

It'll only manifest in a newer game, and to a much more detrimental degree, IMO.

[Jeeqbit]

I feel like the game (Devs, writers, etc..) has painted itself into a corner.

Ah yes, Pictomancer.

Maybe it's time to focus on the next MMO and start over.

Wouldn't make sense when it's statistically in its prime and has 10 years worth of content - something many MMORPGs wish they could have when starting. Without that 10 years worth of content, they struggle to get off the ground and compete with the ones that do.

Even some of the much-hyped new MMORPGs fell flat and as much as systems can be blamed, part of it is always going to be that they just don't have 10 years worth of content.

I know some people who invested 10 years into this game think it "has no content", but for a new or returning player that is certainly not the case and if they want to do absolutely everything it will take them a long time. The same can't necessarily be said for any brand new MMORPG.

With that in mind, SE starting from scratch and making a new MMORPG doesn't seem... logical in the slightest.

This one isn't fun anymore and I don't know how we can recover from it.

There are plenty of ways to make it fun without creating a new game. It would be the far smarter option given the above.

[Kaurhz]

Ah yes, Pictomancer.
Wouldn't make sense when it's statistically in its prime and has 10 years worth of content - something many MMORPGs wish they could have when starting. Without that 10 years worth of content, they struggle to get off the ground and compete with the ones that do.

Even some of the much-hyped new MMORPGs fell flat and as much as systems can be blamed, part of it is always going to be that they just don't have 10 years worth of content.

I know some people who invested 10 years into this game think it "has no content", but for a new or returning player that is certainly not the case and if they want to do absolutely everything it will take them a long time. The same can't necessarily be said for any brand new MMORPG.

With that in mind, SE starting from scratch and making a new MMORPG doesn't seem... logical in the slightest.
There are plenty of ways to make it fun without creating a new game. It would be the far smarter option given the above.

I would probably make the distinction that 10 years of 'support' and 10 years of content are not the same thing.

Sure, it will take newer players a long time to catch up and do all of the content, which is a good thing. However, the pace at which the content is released for current expansion players isn't really a good state, especially when all of the grindier and more substantive content is backloaded to the latter half of the expansion cycle, as opposed to being introduced earlier on.

I am inclined to agree that part of the problem is they don't have an abundance of content. But much of the problem lends itself to the simple fact they never really had a core audience and developing that is always going to be a coin toss. Regardless of how much content you have in the game. - It's very difficult to indoctrinate people into entirely different systems.

[Sensui]

its prime and has 10 years worth of content

We can't even get 6 months worth of content after a major release... Let alone 10 more years.

[Jeeqbit]

We can't even get 6 months worth of content after a major release... Let alone 10 more years.

Personally, I'm still doing content after playing since ARR so I can't really relate to this, but I can understand it not being enough if you restrict yourself to not completing certain things.

Also, if the game is so congested, why is there a free log in campaign? That smells of low log in numbers.

It is a patch lull. Obviously the congested status changes during patches or for strategic reasons (such as to push people over to Dynamis and balance it out).

As far as Lucky Bancho's numbers go, those are based over multiple months (so could capture activity from an earlier month) but are also typically taken during patch lulls or before patches to capture the lowest numbers, to give a better sense of the baseline rather than the patch spikes.

[Sensui]

Also, if the game is so congested, why is there a free log in campaign? That smells of low log in numbers.

[KitaiAryik]

ikr. why i think most of NA labeled as "congested" is fking BS at this point. unless we see numbers from SE side, i don't believe for a minute its as congested as they claim. for a game that we pay for every 2 yrs on top of a sub for so much of a single region alone to be locked off while EU/JP don't have the same restrictions for this long a period ((going on 4 months here in october)). why there isn't more of an outcry on this baffles but but guess the 14 community will continue to eat whatever sh*t they give us. can't even play with friends without jumping throguh hoops to do so here on NA

[Swordsman]

Also, if the game is so congested, why is there a free log in campaign? That smells of low log in numbers.

ikr. why i think most of NA labeled as "congested" is fking BS at this point. unless we see numbers from SE side, i don't believe for a minute its as congested as they claim. for a game that we pay for every 2 yrs on top of a sub for so much of a single region alone to be locked off while EU/JP don't have the same restrictions for this long a period ((going on 4 months here in october)). why there isn't more of an outcry on this baffles but but guess the 14 community will continue to eat whatever sh*t they give us. can't even play with friends without jumping throguh hoops to do so here on NA

Lol exactly. I posted this on a different thread but I'll post this here too.

Gotta cling to that artificial popularity and hype by falsely claiming the servers are congested, because it looks better to the stakeholders. SE can tell their investors: "just look, the game is crowded and alive with activity!" when in reality that's not quite the case. That's not to say the game is dying or anything, but servers definitely aren't running anywhere near capacity.