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  1. #71
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    Rau Berlioz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    Rau, you know I love ya, but you know you can dislike a person, but still admit they're good at what they do, right?
    You can dislike them. That's cool. No one cares.

    What a number of people are doing in this thread is criticizing BG for being selfabsorbed elitist with no skill. Obviously, its the internet. People will stroke their e-peen given the chance. The part that is hilarious is that people who said/say BG has no skill are probably the same people who copy/pasted BG's original Ifrit and Garuda strats when they first came out.

    Say what you want about how you don't like BG, but give credit where its due.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eemeefu View Post
    This thread is not a beautiful or unique snowflake.

  2. #72
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    Alhanelem Amidatelion
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat View Post
    Many of our core members didn't apply as perfect players, but did show promise and the willingness to learn and improve. By humbling themselves and recognizing what needed to be changed, asking for advice, and a hunger to improve, they became some of our best players.

    We are absolutely interested in talking to players that have potential, that may just need the opportunity to parse against higher DPS or who might need a little advice. These players can show this to us by displaying a willingness to learn, a great attitude, quick uptake on new ideas, and a steady upward slope of improvement.

    You're right, we aren't going to settle for just, 'good enough', but neither should any hardcore player. Anyone who considers their play non-casual or who wants to start tackling content with a more hardcore attitude should strive to improve every aspect of their game play. When I parse low against Verily at a fight I don't just settle for that and give up, I get angry and push buttons so hard my finger bones crack so I can improve, I ask for advice and try to display a good attitude when some of the criticism is harsh. I try to not only improve, but to beat him and create a standard that other players look to afterward.
    You gain some respect form that answer. I can live with that.
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  3. #73
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    Eliseus's Avatar
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    Eliseus Kayne
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    You can dislike them. That's cool. No one cares.

    What a number of people are doing in this thread is criticizing BG for being selfabsorbed elitist with no skill. Obviously, its the internet. People will stroke their e-peen given the chance. The part that is hilarious is that people who said/say BG has no skill are probably the same people who copy/pasted BG's original Ifrit and Garuda strats when they first came out.

    Say what you want about how you don't like BG, but give credit where its due.
    I'll give credit if they can still be as good as they are when the population is at least bigger then EQs playerbase

    ATM they are pretty much bragging about being #1 in the special Olympics, which in most people opinion they aren't even that.
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  4. #74
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    Galaxia's Avatar
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    Ru Paul
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    You can dislike them. That's cool. No one cares.

    What a number of people are doing in this thread is criticizing BG for being selfabsorbed elitist with no skill. Obviously, its the internet. People will stroke their e-peen given the chance. The part that is hilarious is that people who said/say BG has no skill are probably the same people who copy/pasted BG's original Ifrit and Garuda strats when they first came out.

    Say what you want about how you don't like BG, but give credit where its due.
    blm burning garuda was not taken from bg, and many people do garuda with very different strategies atm, same with ifrit. So please don't try to white-knight your linkshell so hard, because it's not working on this thread, i love how you guys keep bragging and bragging no matter what
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  5. #75
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    Rusalka Camenae
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    I highly dislike the fact that you made this post in the general forums so I will continue to post in it and bump it to the top of the front page of the forums.

    Seriously, for 90% of the people that posted in this thread it would have been better to just leave this thread alone, it was halfway down the second page this morning with 0 replies, and would have faded into obscurity instead of blowing up like it did had you just left it alone. It isn't up to you to decide whether or not this has a place here anyways, thats the mods job.
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  6. #76
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    Rau Berlioz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxia View Post
    blm burning garuda was not taken from bg, and many people do garuda with very different strategies atm, same with ifrit. So please don't try to white-knight your linkshell so hard, because it's not working on this thread, i love how you guys keep bragging and bragging no matter what
    Even furthering my point. BLM Burn wasn't from BG. They did it legit for their world first video. And then people tried copying them and STILL failed.
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    Last edited by Rau; 08-07-2012 at 11:57 PM. Reason: derp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eemeefu View Post
    This thread is not a beautiful or unique snowflake.

  7. #77
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    Our intention wasn't to say we're the best, or to brag about any 1st kill. Our intention is to bring awareness to players out there who may play a lot and want to maximize the efficiency of their playtime in a serious and goal oriented manner. We don't want to waste anyone's time, so we try to do things in game correctly, everyone has lives to live and responsibilities to take care of, might as well do things well in game.
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  8. #78
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Wow...

    Okay so I live on the same server as the Boogie Man known as BG. Here's how horrible they are:

    When I was out in Humblehearth and Treespeak working on my luminary and Adiyah Tulika was doing the same thing, everytime we'd pass eachother they'd cheer me on. (Adiyah doesn't know me)

    When leves were the in thing for exping, I did several with folks like Arc and 22, never once were they rude or arrogant.

    When I was out soloing keystones off Wolves in Turning Leaf, Arc and Tachi saw me and invited me to their group so we could all get them faster.

    Tachi made the BG parser public...while I don't personally use it, it has become one of the most used tools for players looking to push their skills.

    Back when Darkhold was the in thing, my first full clear was with Tachi and his old ls. Alevia was the other CNJ in the party on my first Iffy kill...they never treated me like a noob, nor did they make me feel like they were compensating for me.

    Keep in mind, I'm not considered an 'Elite' player on my server. I'm a solid steady-eddie who sure, can hold my own as WHM and am learning to be a fairly consistant Bard, but I'm not anything you'd write your Mamma about. Never once, have I felt like they were mean, or arrogant or had an experience wherein I saw them just go out of their way to grief or bully someone else. Not only that, I've actually seen them help people in need.

    Now don't get me wrong... I HAVE seen people grief them. I HAVE seen people start wars with them they cannot win. But in general, you don't poke sleeping tigers with sticks. And I am sure that when it comes to BG vs. the other Elite LS's on the server, it IS a different game. But I expect competitive people to be competitive.

    As to the forums, bored people are bored. There is really no way in game atm for all the competitive LS's to try to out-do each other in game. So, we see bored people on the forums jabbing back and forth...occasionally, people try to be funny and fail miserably. And yes, sometimes, things get out of hand...that said, the actual IN-game BG has been as pleasant overall on the server. So yeah, they are recruiting...and hopefully they find who they are looking for...but they are not the jerks you make them out to be.

    I only even posted because Durandal is my home, and I get tired when people slight the entire server due to mis-conceptions about ONE LS.
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    Last edited by Kinseykinz; 08-07-2012 at 11:03 AM.

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    It's no surprise when people hates on someone that is better than them or more famous, kinda like Justin Bieber.
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  10. #80
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    I only even posted because Durandal is my home, and I get tired when people slight the entire server due to mis-conceptions about ONE LS.
    ^THIS

    I couldn't agree with you more Kinsey. People give BG a bad rep bc they're the "big elite LS" everyone likes to talk about. Groups like these are bound to attract jerks in any MMORPG. Sure I've seen a BG member trolling a GM journalist. And others AFK in the middle of Ul'Dah with Ifrit/Moogle/Garuda weapons out. But there are LSs with actual jerk members that bully people and dick around with others (I'm looking at you Semper Fidelius :O) and don't get half the attention these guys get.

    So why doesn't everyone just take a deep breath and chill out? Especially all those who aren't on our server and don't know. K?
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