Giving up

[JimCasey_RF6]

Raiding has just turned into " how to time skip to bed time and get nothing accomplished " it's just wasting my time waiting to fill.. I'm over it.

If that's how you feel, then you are doing the right thing by taking a break from raiding.

[Hyperia]

Source? Because that retention, when we know barely antyhing about that and only SE has the data seems like wishful thinking at best. Especially when anyone can go to steamcharts and find that the average population right now is below/equal to the one we can find during EW patch lull, let alone how this is happening when we are not even one full patch into the expansion which is quite telling.

DT is suffering from the EW extended patch cycles, the stagnation of most of the content and the formula and an msq unable to carry the problems the other content of the game have.


(Steamcharts Source: https://steamcharts.com/app/39210#1y)

I agree, the extended patch cycle from 3 months to 4.5 is really showing. While on paper, adding only 1.5 months doesn’t sound that bad but it’s the cumulative effect that is the true problem.

Before my break, I avoided expert dungeons because I really didn’t want to do the same dungeon for 9 months.

The formulas have become too routine, they need to mix it up.

For example, have Expert dungeons be every max level dungeon reverse iSynced to the current max level. The sheer volume of content would solve so many issues for dungeons. Yes, we have over 100 dungeons but they make them very inaccessible via their current system.

Also, everything doesn’t have to be tied to the MSQ, such as having a trial and dungeon be linked to them. It can diminish the encounters because their current formula forces them to inset it when it may not be necessary to move the story forward. It’s ok to have trials be side content along with dungeons.

Don’t get me wrong, a story dungeon can be fun but it takes more work to make a story dungeon than a fun rampage dungeon.

Insert content when it’s needed, not because a formula says you need to have it. If it doesn’t move the story forward, set it to the side.

It’s time to get back to the basics, it’s time to have fun be the most important thing first, all others secondary. Remember what you learned so painfully a decade ago and teach your newer devs so they stop or won’t make the same mistakes.

[BaconBits]

Give up...

And come see me in Dragon Ball Sparking Zero, my Yajirobi is schnasty.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Considering he is one of the very few white knights still left on this forum, he made it up.

Nah, he didn't make them up. They're just old and outdated now. Like this game.

[Thurmnmurmn]

How are they outdated? Seriously, like - basic logic here. How is using the current data #'s and comparing them to the equivalent data #'s for the past two expansions "old"? *Shakes head even more profoundly*

Your DT numbers are. You used September's numbers when the last 30 days shows even more of a drop off (even at the time you originally posted).
Currently using steam charts it shows 43.61% player count compared to DT launch.
I've also pointed out to you before that this doesn't signify retention since we don't know that's it's the same players returning.

[Striker44]

Your DT numbers are. You used September's numbers when the last 30 days shows even more of a drop off (even at the time you originally posted).
Currently using steam charts it shows 43.61% player count compared to DT launch.
I've also pointed out to you before that this doesn't signify retention since we don't know that's it's the same players returning.

No, they're not. That's not how basic stat comparisons work. I'm comparing the month of release for each xpac (DT/EW/ShB) against the #'s for each of the next two months. For DT, the release month is July 2024, so the next two months are August 2024 and September 2024. Using the "last 30 days" would include some of the 3rdmonth post-release for DT (October) but not for the other two expansions (which also both released within the first week of their respective release months).

Once October's data is finalized, we will be able to accurately compare the 3rd month post-release for all three expansions.

The "same players returning" thing is also irrelevant because we can't "know" that for any of the other expansions, either. Not to mention that all that really matters here, anyway, is the total number of people logging in. The best we can do is make the best comparisons we can using the data we have available, which in this case is the data we're discussing here.

[Eastwall]

It took me 80 hours to clear p3s in pf. I quit after that, but it is a good thing that l really like crystalline conflict. I still enjoy the game to this day.

[Sensui]

Only logged in this week to reclaim my medium house bid fail Gil. Been having a blast playing Silent Hill 2 remake!

[AnnRam]

Please look forward and stay tuned(subbed) until the big update coming in January 2025!

[Krojack]

Redundant theme but posting anyway. Giving up Savage for now. Waiting 4 hours for a party to fill is just wasting too much time when I could just be doing anything else with my life. I used to not be a doom and gloomer, but this tier has been bad for Party Finder, and there's nothing else to do. Questioning whether to stay subbed or not.. makes me sad to just pay a sub to keep housing. Just thought everyone should know. Not feelin' it lately.

And I know someone who is struggling to find 1 person to fill their 2 nights a week static.