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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    They got upset one of my FC members was also using the forums so decided to openly tell everyone to look into my FC and its lodestone on a housing thread and my FC got some very kind messages from people who disagreed with me LOL. I have a very low opinion of them as a result, I had to swap my displayed character on the forums and I'm not surprised they're white knighting for Square Enix, and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again.
    well ill be as fair as i can be i am sorry for you if thats true. if People go out to this level you know who is right. Well i cant judge since i was not there but yeah if its true the person knows who they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    They got upset one of my FC members was also using the forums so decided to openly tell everyone to look into my FC and its lodestone on a housing thread and my FC got some very kind messages from people who disagreed with me LOL. I have a very low opinion of them as a result, I had to swap my displayed character on the forums and I'm not surprised they're white knighting for Square Enix, and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again.
    Can you link the thread? Otherwise it sounds like you're just crying wolf and it's a he said she said situation.
    Your profile doesn't help to give a good first impression. You sound like a happy sound person.

    About Yourself Sleuthing around on my profile for dirt isn't getting you anywhere. Why don't you try using an AI to generate a response for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Can you link the thread? Otherwise it sounds like you're just crying wolf and it's a he said she said situation.
    Your profile doesn't help to give a good first impression. You sound like a happy sound person.
    I have the thread (Or whats left of it) here much of which the moderators pruned due to it getting rather spicy. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...purchase/page5

    I don't care what impressions anyone has of me. I provide feedback, and discussion on topics I care to discuss. If that offends someone to the point of digging through my profiles, I'm going to leave a snarky surprise at the end of their treasure hunt as a reward. I don't need the validation of others. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    If it's not SE's problems, then they would not be "Implementing counter measures".
    this logic is like, the car company installing an airbag because the driver crashing for whatever reason they doing were the company's problem.

    No, it's not their problem, but they still trying to better the driver's safety whenever they got in problem.
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    Interesting:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ance-(Oct.-7-8)

    It can be, that this is the fix for the DDoS-attacks.



    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellybell View Post
    this logic is like, the car company installing an airbag because the driver crashing for whatever reason they doing were the company's problem.

    No, it's not their problem, but they still trying to better the driver's safety whenever they got in problem.
    yeah good guys of car companys they are do it just because not because the law is like that or it would sell well. you get the idea i guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    I have the thread (Or whats left of it) here much of which the moderators pruned due to it getting rather spicy. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...purchase/page5

    I don't care what impressions anyone has of me. I provide feedback, and discussion on topics I care to discuss. If that offends someone to the point of digging through my profiles, I'm going to leave a snarky surprise at the end of their treasure hunt as a reward. I don't need the validation of others. :-)

    after i read the comment not everyone ownes a pc i know who has the technical understands for the DDOs topic lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante131 View Post
    Okay dude I have enough of this. I understand you want to defend a big company, but saying that DDoS attacks are solely the players' problem isn’t fair or accurate. DDoS attacks target the game servers, which are managed by the company. Players don’t have the ability to prevent or defend against these attacks, and it’s unrealistic to expect them to.

    It’s the responsibility of the company running the game to invest in proper security measures to mitigate these attacks. Things like DDoS protection services, server redundancy, and better network infrastructure are all within the company's control. Players are here to enjoy the game, not manage the server security.

    While it’s unfortunate that these attacks happen, the company needs to take action to defend its players from them. Blaming the players who are affected by these disruptions doesn't solve the problem or make the gaming experience better. If the servers belong to another company trust then they still manage them, hell even if not they pay money that speeks louder then words. You can't tell me they can't do anything about it, they simply don't want to because other stuff is " more important " for them.
    Let me state this again and in bold.

    The most recent DDOS attacks have not been targeting the game's servers. If they were targeting the game servers, all players using the targeted servers would be getting disconnected. This is not happening. It is only some players being affected while others are able to play as normal.


    What has been getting targeted is a node in the national internet infrastructure that a lot of the FFXIV traffic passes through depending on where the player lives. I live in CA. I'm not being affected at all. I have been able to play without disruption. My cousin's family lives in CO. Watching them connect and disconnect has felt like a game of Ping Pong at times because they are affected. A friend who lives in IL has also been affected but unlike my cousin's family, he has a VPN. He gets disconnected, he boots up his VPN and routes around the issue. He is then able to play without a problem.

    SE cannot do anything against a DDOS attack that is occurring outside of their sphere of control and influence no matter how much you want to blame them. All they can do is notify the companies that operate the national internet infrastructure that traffic to their servers is being affected by an outside attack and let players know that they may have problems connecting to the game due to that attack. They can do nothing about the attack themselves because SE is not responsible for your internet connection. They are responsible for the game servers and the game servers are running just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dante131 View Post
    okay tell where to complain then ? let me do the job of SE they should complain there ...
    Complain to your ISP since you're paying them for your internet connection and you're not getting connected.

    SE does report to the companies responsible for maintaining the nodes but that's all they can do. They can't magically fix what they do not own or operate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dante131 View Post
    after i read the comment not everyone ownes a pc i know who has the technical understands for the DDOs topic lol
    Which is a large part of the problem. The average consumer doesn't have a clue what's happening so they jump to conclusions about who is responsible for fixing things.

    Right now, SE is not the party responsible for fixing the problem because it is outside of their control.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 10-07-2024 at 11:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Interesting:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ance-(Oct.-7-8)

    It can be, that this is the fix for the DDoS-attacks.

    Cheers
    SE can't fix the DDoS attacks directly because they aren't targeting their data center, which is in Sacramento CA. The DDoS has consistently targeted the large business ISP NTT, usually the San Jose node, but also previously a node in Arizona.

    What SE *can* do, and what I'm hoping they're doing in this case, is adding in a second backup ISP that they can switch over to when NTT is getting ass blasted. It's pretty much the only mitigation strategy that will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    SE can't fix the DDoS attacks directly because they aren't targeting their data center, which is in Sacramento CA.
    It depends. If they upgrade their 1 MBit network hubs to 10 GBit switches then they will be able to mitigate it.




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