thing that need work on ToS

[Alyko]

I occasionally see a few posts on these forums where a player is complaining about getting temp banned for saying something in game, but the GMs won't tell them what it is they said that got them banned. I don't see why a GM just can't say: "you got banned for saying this." Instead its all just smoke and mirrors. If that's an issue stemming from the TOS I'd like to see that changed although it probably never will be.

Because at best, it invites arguing and pleading with the GM. At worst it provides adversaries information on how to game the system. I would wager in 99% of cases the player knows full well what got them banned and in very few cases does it provide any learning opportunities.

[Nero-Voidstails]

Because at best, it invites arguing and pleading with the GM. At worst it provides adversaries information on how to game the system. I would wager in 99% of cases the player knows full well what got them banned and in very few cases does it provide any learning opportunities.

I have been suspended for doing what the tank told me leaving them alone because I was doing my healer job >~>

[Dirwen]

I prefer the community in FF11 and most people were young even me and there was no big problems but in FF14 its mostly adults and yet they need TOS to babysit them really says a lot about this community.

I don't know when it started but shout has been filled with nothing but 18+ venue shouts but TOS doesn't do anything to them. The lack of gameplay content is really taking a toll on me and if FF11 raids and the new bozja content is disappointing then I'm done. Feels like SE became cheap with the service on this game and it shows.

[Nero-Voidstails]

I prefer the community in FF11 and most people were young even me and there was no big problems but in FF14 its mostly adults and yet they need TOS to babysit them really says a lot about this community.

I don't know when it started but shout has been filled with nothing but 18+ venue shouts but TOS doesn't do anything to them. The lack of gameplay content is really taking a toll on me and if FF11 raids and the new bozja content is disappointing then I'm done. Feels like SE became cheap with the service on this game and it shows.

and don't forgot the DDoS attack that is always happening and we get no free sub days too

[Archeron]

We're all sitting here pretending that Mare, and other largely visual third party mods are a big issue that's killing the playerbase.

It literally doesn't affect you. They're using visual mods that only show up on their screen, or the other people they're linked with on Mare. If you're not using plugins, if you're not using any third party programs yourself, it is literally none of your business what they are doing. You can complain when they're using programs to cheat in PvP, give themselves an unfair advantage in harder content, or bot the game/cheat the marketboards. It's about as petty as me telling you that I think your character is ugly, and demanding you change it to my liking.

It's a fairly simple silent contract. Anyone who uses Third Party Programs keeps their mouths shut about them, and Square doesn't have to do anything to penalize them. The reality is a HUGE chunk of this community uses third party programs, and Square knows full well that doing anything to restrict this segment of the community jeapordizes their willingess to stay subscribed to the game. Third party tools add QoL, and is probably the only reason the casual/RP community is as large as it is. Square should at least look to some of the plugins people are using, and ask themselves why they haven't implemented them into the game themselves.

A real improvement would not come from the ToS, but the Game masters who enforce it. People openly violating ToS need to get hammered quicker, and when they do ban people, they should at least provide context behind the ban so people can learn from what they did wrong. The improvements to Blacklisting were already a major step forward, as well as implementing term filtering. But there is always more they can do to reduce ticket volumes.

[Hallarem]

Ah yes, let's start witch hunting and censoring words. That's a real great way to ruin a community.

[Kaurhz]

Honestly, I think the ToS is fine. It could do with some work on the examples of what would constitute prohibited behavior.

The problem is with the transparency or lack thereof when providing information on why a ban was issued.

You can have the best ToS in existence, or even the worst ToS in existence and none of that really amounts to much if the transparency isn't there

[Nero-Voidstails]

that's why I do say Roleplay reason about mare the syncshell and all because now with the way housing goes of you refuse to acknowledge them they will lock you out and so on like I wouldn't mind of people wouldn't be abusing those as reason to "ban" people from a location

[SaberEx]

GM could install Mare and go on a banning spree in limsa lominsa but tbh, while not 100% safe since its remains against toss you can use whatever makes your experience more pleasant as long it doesn't ruins other people's experience and there is no harassment and you should have little trouble with it

[genuine_stranger]

GM could install Mare and go on a banning spree in limsa lominsa but tbh, while not 100% safe since its remains against toss you can use whatever makes your experience more pleasant as long it doesn't ruins other people's experience and there is no harassment and you should have little trouble with it

Yeah... From what I've seen on the internet, it's not just install Mare, there are some more hoops you have to jump through to see the changes of other characters.