thing that need work on ToS

[Archeron]

We're all sitting here pretending that Mare, and other largely visual third party mods are a big issue that's killing the playerbase.

It literally doesn't affect you. They're using visual mods that only show up on their screen, or the other people they're linked with on Mare. If you're not using plugins, if you're not using any third party programs yourself, it is literally none of your business what they are doing. You can complain when they're using programs to cheat in PvP, give themselves an unfair advantage in harder content, or bot the game/cheat the marketboards. It's about as petty as me telling you that I think your character is ugly, and demanding you change it to my liking.

It's a fairly simple silent contract. Anyone who uses Third Party Programs keeps their mouths shut about them, and Square doesn't have to do anything to penalize them. The reality is a HUGE chunk of this community uses third party programs, and Square knows full well that doing anything to restrict this segment of the community jeapordizes their willingess to stay subscribed to the game. Third party tools add QoL, and is probably the only reason the casual/RP community is as large as it is. Square should at least look to some of the plugins people are using, and ask themselves why they haven't implemented them into the game themselves.

A real improvement would not come from the ToS, but the Game masters who enforce it. People openly violating ToS need to get hammered quicker, and when they do ban people, they should at least provide context behind the ban so people can learn from what they did wrong. The improvements to Blacklisting were already a major step forward, as well as implementing term filtering. But there is always more they can do to reduce ticket volumes.

[Hallarem]

Ah yes, let's start witch hunting and censoring words. That's a real great way to ruin a community.

[Kaurhz]

Honestly, I think the ToS is fine. It could do with some work on the examples of what would constitute prohibited behavior.

The problem is with the transparency or lack thereof when providing information on why a ban was issued.

You can have the best ToS in existence, or even the worst ToS in existence and none of that really amounts to much if the transparency isn't there

[Zakuyia]

I actually think the ToS is perfect. I used to wish it would just be a general "don't be rude" type of thing, then it changed to be exactly that and I'm happy.

It also encourages for ppl to false report u till something sticks cause ppl are petty like that. XD it also why ff14 is called the silent game cause everyone so easily offended if u sneeze u could get ban over that.

[DonutSteel]

"Mare" is also shorthand for a visibility mod named "Mare Synchronos"

That was his point though.

[Nero-Voidstails]

that's why I do say Roleplay reason about mare the syncshell and all because now with the way housing goes of you refuse to acknowledge them they will lock you out and so on like I wouldn't mind of people wouldn't be abusing those as reason to "ban" people from a location

[Jeeqbit]

when i started like end of Stormblood the chat was always alive. in ShB people been talking about the story situation in chat now all dead.

Not in my experience (in dungeons).

They were talking in city states such as Ul'dah (bias since I was on Balmung), Idyllshire (in Heavensward), Rhalgr's Reach (in Stormblood) and Eulmore (in Shadowbringers). But the truth is, the chat in city areas progressively reduced as the expansions went on - probably mostly because Discord became a thing, but also due to the amount of areas and mounts not being allowed.

i am not alone with this many people just dont want to talk anymore after the ToS change.

I agree with you that many people do not talk due to the ToS or a time where they got in trouble. I just don't agree that this is universal.

I have conversations in the game every single day in various chats (NN, linkshells, FC, shouts, alliance raids and dungeons) and when I do, absolutely nobody has a problem talking to me. 99% of people in dungeons at least say a variation of "Hi" and "gg", so when we say they don't talk we must mean in between that.

[All_Nonsense]

I would change that.
Check the PCs.

I am NOT giving Square Enix root level access to my machine to play FF14

[PercibelTheren]

oh really well when you will get suspended for asking a tank to turn stance on you will find it unfair trust me and like I said I play with adult not 5 years old chidren

I would have been suspended a hundred times over if you could get punished for asking a tank to turn on stance. It's the way you say it that matters. I've been around multiplayer games for a while and nearly every time a person claims they have been unjustly punished for chat, upon them providing logs, it turns out they were, in fact, being a massive jerk.

[PercibelTheren]

It also encourages for ppl to false report u till something sticks cause ppl are petty like that. XD it also why ff14 is called the silent game cause everyone so easily offended if u sneeze u could get ban over that.

The game is silent not because of the ToS but because there is literally zero need to talk to other people in 99% of the situations. Things have INTENTIONALLY been made so that you can basically pretend the other people are NPCs.