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  1. #61
    Player Angeldust's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    Some people are only happy when they're unhappy. They'll always find something to complain about and will let everyone know why they're unhappy. Everything in the world could be going amazing for them and they'll just end up complaining about things being too good or that it's only a matter of time before things get worse.
    okay so the solution to that is,

    add chest that randomy drop from mops that give hidden rewards, items to craft with hidden recipes etc to random monsters in the world, chest drops after kill and people have to solve riddle like in ff11 (other online one) stupid fun that they can cry and complain about failing at -solved so complainers will be happy.
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    Last edited by Angeldust; 10-07-2024 at 05:58 AM.

  2. #62
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    “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.” - John Lydgate
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  3. #63
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    Jim Casey
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.” - John Lydgate
    Don't panic, Angeldust, this quote is ancient and came long before your arrival. Your ability to find the perfect solution to every problem that has been presented to you is miraculous.
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    i dont think you can please everyone for sure but i think you can at least try to give every party in the game something. this would require to work on 14 and not other projects so that a small team will not made smaller but its just me the toxic guy who "hate" this game i guess. Here some examples about what i talking

    - casual and raid update
    - use systems like achievement points
    - reward hard content and dont forget the casual
    - use the Map for more then just story ( treasures, events and so on )
    - make sidequest usefull and not just mapfiller
    - alt friendliness
    - reward raider who clear the content early ( a bit like wow with ahead of the curve )
    - reduce Timegateing
    - bring more glam ingame instead of shop
    - more customization for characters
    - stop using the simple way and avoide long hairstyles
    - Class changes
    - catch up mechanics beside of having Gil

    i think you get the drill here. People over time gave enough feedback here. I think if they wouldnt do like 3 projects at the same time or would have a bigger team, then they could adress this issues. Maybe even with a good balance like split it into 2 parts .0 patch for casual and QoL .5 for high end ( just an example )
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
    One would think with some 20+ jobs now that we'd have enough flavours of everything to please 90% of people but for some reason the devs don't want 20+ flavours of FF14, they want maybe 8 flavours of FF14 and even those share a similar set of cores. Of course you can't please everyone with 8 fundamentally similar flavours of the same thing.

    That said, just as big a part of people being unhappy as the lack of distinct flavours is (as we see in the healer strike/tank threads) serious balance issues. Further to that, both of those issues interact heavily with encounter design which I agree with others has become stagnant and perhaps even lazy. The dev team really should stop appealing to the lowest common demoninator and demand people at level 70+ actually play their role by designing and balancing jobs and content in a way that reflects that demand.
    Adding too much flavor easily leads to jobs being unbalance, and that absolutely cannot happen. Jobs are designed solely to appease the savage raiders and they want them all within 1% of each other and all buffs must align so jobs can enter their burst window together.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angeldust View Post
    make a list of 12 things within the game that cant please everyone then give me one hour and ill please everyone with that same list you say cant,
    Are you a child? You think you can please everyone with your ideas as if you have it all figured it out and experts who have experience who are paid to do this don't have a clue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Adding too much flavor easily leads to jobs being unbalance, and that absolutely cannot happen. Jobs are designed solely to appease the savage raiders and they want them all within 1% of each other and all buffs must align so jobs can enter their burst window together.
    As long as the burst phase aligns at the 120s mark they can do whatever they want with cooldowns along the way. 30s, 40s, 15s, 20s, hell NIN has a 90s cooldown in it's opener. "Different but equal" is a valid balancing concept that works in RTS, there's no reason for it to not work in MMOs.
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  8. #68
    Player Angeldust's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Are you a child? You think you can please everyone with your ideas as if you have it all figured it out and experts who have experience who are paid to do this don't have a clue.
    Why does it matter my age, it means nothing compared to making all happy it means nothing its just a mere number for people to split people up onto things... you sound like Sera when she says she is older and that those who are younger have alot they dont know. Seems a bit irrelevent when old people have screwed the world up since 1970s the older people screwed everything up in the world lol

    Also those who are paid, pay is a little black mail sorta where they will delete the truth and make it irrelevant for the sake of the overall company

    tbh those older people and "experts" are more irrelevant than anyone els

    there is 0 reason the world cant run like how i view it should outside of corporation greed and society old people who are stuck in an endless pattern similar to the circle of death in ff10, they are fully aware of options and solutions to make everyone happy they choice not to use that information...


    Much how the same people keep this endless cycle of shareholder brainwashing companies to cancel or not what to add and what not to add to a game/tv show etc when the creators could be standing alone just by sells alone I mean its how they had to cancel the new monster high show on nick with no season 3, when plenty of us own all the dolls and episodes. SO screw that logic of old farts and "experts under a leash of shareholders and companys

    They know they just refuse 2 like much old people they know how to solve what proplems exist they choice not to because they profit off of it.
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    Last edited by Angeldust; 10-07-2024 at 05:52 AM.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angeldust View Post
    I guess its a good thing 50 different things can all have different solutions...

    You can do it it just requires more work to do so, if the next set arent happy with xyz or abc then we create next solution of efg. Not everything will require even reaching the efg stage at all while maitaning eaching grouping without stealing from others we can create happy and joy for the next grouping
    Aaand who does pay for that?
    More work is equal to a bigger budget needed.
    If you keep adding stuffs just to please everyone you’ll need more investment.
    Some of them could not see your work rewarding enough, and thus not giving you money.
    You now don’t have the money to pay who actually is inside the developing.
    They left you alone for a better job.
    You can’t develop a “perfect” game alone that makes everybody happy.

    You made yourself unhappy, your employees, your investors and maybe some of the players who were presented the pre alpha.
    GG.

    Nope, you can’t make everyone happy, as you can see by your very post.
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  10. #70
    Player Angeldust's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz_93 View Post
    Aaand who does pay for that?
    More work is equal to a bigger budget needed.
    If you keep adding stuffs just to please everyone you’ll need more investment.
    Some of them could not see your work rewarding enough, and thus not giving you money.
    You now don’t have the money to pay who actually is inside the developing.
    They left you alone for a better job.
    You can’t develop a “perfect” game alone that makes everybody happy.

    You made yourself unhappy, your employees, your investors and maybe some of the players who were presented the pre alpha.
    GG.

    Nope, you can’t make everyone happy, as you can see by your very post.
    we pay for that we are giving them 80 dolalrs for an expansion + another 14-20 a month + all the random bs.. so nope they are getting paid plenty to do all of it lol, beside they choice to be devolpers and they should be happy with just making a game people play period so thats irrelevent, we are paying for that with every game bought every month of subcrition, every single random item connect to the game series they sale pays for that.
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