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  1. #21
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    It could just be the text damage to have a different color. Or a + sign after.

    Like, you failed your positional you see 5293, you succeed you see 1402+
    It's better UI/UX practice to indicate a failed positional rather than a successful positional, because (1) if you only indicate successful positionals you still can't tell the difference between a failed positional and a non-positional and (2) it's much easier to spot an incorrect indicator in a sea of normal stuff than it is to spot the lack of a correct indicator in a sea of correct indicators.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 10-18-2024 at 08:22 AM.

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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    This audio feedback does exist... but so far as I can tell only on samurai

    the sound effects on Kasha and Gekko sound weaker when you miss the positional than they do when you hit them correctly, so considering that, it shouldn't be too hard for them to expand the system to the other melee jobs.
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    Rui Aii
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    I think they are moving toward the idea that removing positionals all together
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    Anjou Maaka
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    I think positionals just don't belong in the game to begin with, but it would be nice to have an audio feedback for when you land your positionals. I'm a tank main though so it rarely affects me anyways.

    The only dps I'll play a lot in any content at all now is Reaper (as soon as I get around to leveling it to 100), which only has 2 positionals that you don't even worry about because true north covers 75% of their usage. So going from that to the ridiculous amount that exist on Viper is quite the whiplash.
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    Aco Nale
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    I think positionals just don't belong in the game to begin with
    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    I'm a tank main though so it rarely affects me anyways.
    Why are those who don't main or play melee DPS jobs much always the ones that want positionals gone?
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  6. #26
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    Anjou Maaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aco505 View Post
    Why are those who don't main or play melee DPS jobs much always the ones that want positionals gone?
    You're really nitpicking even though I agreed with the OP about the audio feedback. I play dps enough to at least know what positionals are and how to hit them. My experience with them compared to tanking and healing is why I think they don't belong in the game. Missing your positionals isn't even detrimental anymore, so why are they still in the game? You really don't feel the loss of 20 potency on your damage output. Just doesn't make sense to keep them around.
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  7. #27
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    Chandra Dragonbane
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Audio and visual cues would be great for nudging/teaching people to play the game! At least, for those who want to improve.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    It's better UI/UX practice to indicate a failed positional rather than a successful positional, because (1) if you only indicate successful positionals you still can't tell the difference between a failed positional and a non-positional and (2) it's much easier to spot an incorrect indicator in a sea of normal stuff than it is to spot the lack of a correct indicator in a sea of correct indicators.
    That’s something WoW does really well and ff14 should learn from. It’s really satisfying to see numbers pop up, whether it be white and orange numbers or the giant numbers for crits. Strange ff14 doesn’t have that, even though SE already copied so much from other MMOs.

    On a another note, could use an ear shattering ping to when an invulnerable target is hit as well, like that turtle dragon from that lvl 50 dungeon… can’t recall the name.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    I think positionals just don't belong in the game to begin with,
    MNK and DRG lost a few positionals in DT. I think on DRG it made the rotation a bit smoother since the job was already busy af. On MNK it didn’t feel as good and felt like the class lost a bit of its identity. But maybe that’s because I main it and have the muscle memory down. /shrug
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    There is already that ping when you hit an invulnerable target, or when mobs are hitting an invulnerable paladin.
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    From a purely fun standpoint, it'd be cool to have visual/audio feedback when you nail a positional. Even if they just implemented a satisfying sound effect or a meatier/bassier version of the sound we already have, when the positional applies, it'd make the game just feel better to play imo. Been wanting something like this for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Jfc why did I even post on a bait thread, this place sucks. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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