This game reuse assets too much

[CaedemSanguis]

For each expansion you get -> 12-15 raid bosses, 7 trials, 12 alliance bosses, 9 criterion bosses, 9 deep dungeon bosses, 39 dungeon bosses

so for high level you have 27-30 new bosses (ex + savage + criterion), for casuals you have around 90 new bosses (all of the thing), each expansion

I find it kind of fair (when compared to WoW for example), to me they just need to improve 4 things :
- Gameplay to be more fun for both casuals/raiders (netcode improvement needed)
- Reward/Gear progression to be more pleasing for both casuals/raiders
- Better distribution of content
- Rework of the daily stuff (roulettes)

If something, they should reuse assets a bit more, for example expert roulettes should be something like m+ in wow, so maybe instead doing 13 new dungeons each expansion, they should do 9 dungeons, and each season (7.0 -> 7.2 / 7.2 -> 7.4 / 7.4 -> 8.0) they put in the expert 3 new dungeons and 3 old dungeons reworked for lv100, so you have a pool of 6 dungeons (instead of 2 or 3) and the development time saved can be used to have +1/+2/.../+10 version of each dungeons for example

[Jeeqbit]

Yeah but, making them and the Moblins simple palette swaps of their Eorzean counterparts is super boring IMO. They could have given them additional bells and whistles like how the Zun have fur and how you can actually see the faces of the Mord. Why not give the Moblins different masks that reveal their faces a little more? Why not give the Hanu Hanu different head feathers or a more parrot-like head shape?

It would have been nice for them to have used the graphics update to make them more detailed at least. I assume they just didn't manage it since there are only so many new assets they make vs reusing old ones and must not have seen them as important enough compared to, say, the Mamool Ja.

But they have done this before sometimes. For example, the Hobgoblins in Kholusia could perhaps be their other shard cousins, or maybe the No mou. There are also the Dwarves in Kholusia being their version of Lalafells and the fat cactuars in Amh Araeng. So it's not like they never do this.

[Garruss]

The only thing that annoys me with them reusing assets is the contest reuse of armour sets, instead of adding new-looking armour it's just recolours of older armour from the game.

[CKNovel]

If something, they should reuse assets a bit more, for example expert roulettes should be something like m+ in wow, so maybe instead doing 13 new dungeons each expansion, they should do 9 dungeons, and each season (7.0 -> 7.2 / 7.2 -> 7.4 / 7.4 -> 8.0) they put in the expert 3 new dungeons and 3 old dungeons reworked for lv100, so you have a pool of 6 dungeons (instead of 2 or 3) and the development time saved can be used to have +1/+2/.../+10 version of each dungeons for example

Yes, I agree with this.
WoW has something like 4 mythic dungeons but there's 4 more from previous expansions that are simply upscaled.

I wish they'd upscale more content, wouldn't it be fun if we had a new savage tier every even patch and an upscaled older savage tier every odd patch balanced around BiS?
And their rewards could simply be the maximum ilvl gear... or mounts, like give me the titan car already.

[Zakuyia]

With the new letter from the producer, I realize that 90% of what has been announced is reused assets. I then started looking at Dawntrail and previous expansions, and I don't think it’s fair to the paying customers who buy an expansion and pay monthly fees to receive this many reused assets in the game.

The entire bestiary of FFXIII has been pretty much exhausted at this point, and even most bosses from Dawntrail are reused skins from previous expansions. In 7.1, we will see Cloud of Darkness again, along with Eden, Byakko, and enemies from XI, all marketed as new content. When is enough enough?

You clearly never played pso2 ngs....come back to me after you play that and tell me how often they reused the content in aelio - stia and tells the community to be hype for reused assets.

[Avoidy]

I mean, for how much time they ask us to wait (and pay) between content updates, I don't think OP is really asking for a lot here. Dude's right. Most of the new content are just rehashes or "updated" versions of things we've already done. Even the mechanics themselves are conceptually the same. But you guys will defend everything here, so now we're comparing new video game content to blades of IRL grass. Which is ironic, because anyone who makes a comparison like that should probably go touch some.

[Iscah]

They aren't necessarily meant to be new btw. I remember a mention in the MSQ about the Hanu Hanu's relation to the ones in the Sea of Clouds. They are more like distant cousins.

That doesn't necessarily mean they had to use the same models – the writing can come after the decision to reuse the models, to support and integrate it. I think there are other reasons for the base decision though.

Yeah but, making them and the Moblins simple palette swaps of their Eorzean counterparts is super boring IMO.

It would have been nice to get redesigns, but I suspect they have a budget on how many new non-human character models they add, and I think they must have exhausted it on expanding the Mamool Ja instead – they added children and unique female models for two of the three tribes, which I think is the more valuable use of their time over new assorted races if it really came down to a choice of one or the other.

[ReynTime]

Yeah I don't take "well they're related by blood to" as an excuse. Much like half the scions who had nothing to add to Dawntrail's MSQ being included in it, this is just a case of "we wanted to use the same models and base races like this so we wrote the lore to make it fit".

[CuteBucket]

There's a continuum here between "reusing old assets in new and interesting ways that disguises the old asset or makes it feel new some other way" and "obviously reusing old assets with little effort (like palette swaps) to save time and money on labor costs."

I don't mind the former. There are some enemy designs where I had no idea they shared a base animation rig until I saw it pointed out to me because the characters built over the rig looked so unique that it didn't even occur to me.

But Dawntrail had A LOT of enemy mobs and especially dungeon bosses that were very obvious reskins of old monsters. When I start to notice to the point it pulls me out of the game, where the illusion breaks and the immersion bubble pops, that's when I feel it's started to cross a line and be an issue. "Wow, it's that one tentacle monster model from Void Arc again but now it's a computer program tentacle monster that looks really silly and out of place...oooh..."/s

A lot of Eureka monsters were reskins, but the reskins still felt artistically unique to me, I guess? It's a fuzzy line, I will admit. For an example in Dawntrail that I think works, Honey B Lovely is a reskinned Shiva in her spear stance, but she doesn't look, behave, or have battle effects much like Shiva, so I don't really mind. But when it's like "that one enemy mob you've seen literally everywhere, but GREEN this time!" it's like, man, come on. Try a little bit harder, maybe? Reusing assets is fine (it'd be stupid not to reuse some assets), just put some effort to make them look nice.

[angienessyo]

That's MMOs for you. WoW's been reusing models and reskinning models for 20 years.