Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 33
  1. #21
    Player
    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Posts
    1,419
    Character
    Alinne Seamont
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Let me see if I have this straight.

    You did savage, the hardest content in the game bar ultimates/criterion.

    on a job you don’t normally play, on a role that isn’t your main.

    Late at night while tired.

    AND you cleared?

    And this is your argument to show that healing isn’t easy?
    Thank you for summarizing my own reaction so well. I was too stunned that anyone would come to OP's conclusion to be able to compose anything anywhere close as good as you.
    (2)

  2. #22
    Player
    Doomfist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2024
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    46
    Character
    Fionn Flamecrest
    World
    Carbuncle
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Let me see if I have this straight.

    You did savage, the hardest content in the game bar ultimates/criterion.

    on a job you don’t normally play, on a role that isn’t your main.

    Late at night while tired.

    AND you cleared?

    And this is your argument to show that healing isn’t easy?
    We cleared on the LAST pull, after OVER AN HOUR of wipes, some from my mistakes, some from others. And unlike on tank, I actually have to care about healing the party after every. single. raidwide. I have to constantly move to the middle while also being less mobile from constantly casting my dps spell, so that my heals and mits will hit everyone. When someone dies, I have to look at the party list to see who I need to rez (I play on controller btw) which distracts me from the next mechanic and makes it easier to mess up. When I'm on tank, I can just trust my healers on fusefield and xboom special after I mitigate properly, but when I'm on healer, I am the one who has to spam heals and mits to get us through those back-to-back damage waves.

    I am the only thing stopping the party from being annihilated, the pressure on this role is immense!!! There's a reason healers are the rarest in PF and it's -not- because of the boring dps rotation. Every fight gets boring on every role if you repeat it 10+ times, much more if you count prog.
    (0)

  3. #23
    Player
    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Posts
    1,419
    Character
    Alinne Seamont
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Doomfist View Post
    We cleared on the LAST pull, after OVER AN HOUR of wipes, some from my mistakes, some from others. And unlike on tank, I actually have to care about healing the party after every. single. raidwide. I have to constantly move to the middle while also being less mobile from constantly casting my dps spell, so that my heals and mits will hit everyone. When someone dies, I have to look at the party list to see who I need to rez (I play on controller btw) which distracts me from the next mechanic and makes it easier to mess up. When I'm on tank, I can just trust my healers on fusefield and xboom special after I mitigate properly, but when I'm on healer, I am the one who has to spam heals and mits to get us through those back-to-back damage waves.

    I am the only thing stopping the party from being annihilated, the pressure on this role is immense!!! There's a reason healers are the rarest in PF and it's -not- because of the boring dps rotation. Every fight gets boring on every role if you repeat it 10+ times, much more if you count prog.
    I'm sorry, after reading this, you still haven't realized that (a) tanks are the aberration- you basically get spoiled playing a tank (yes- tank privilege is a thing). I realize you took the time to write " unlike a tank", but I don't think you fully appreciate just how big that privilege is.

    In addition, a good half of the items you mentioned become second nature on a healer main- knowing where to stand, slidecasting, having less mobility (choosing which skills to use for that), looking at the party list (managing your UI)- know when to look at the UI.

    Even saying that 'you are the only one keeping the party from being annihilated" - technically, not always true, especially in more difficult content, which is why PF tends to have its issues. Every job has skills to help a healer. Whether or not they use them is outside a healer's control- sometime they don't, but MUST- but blame the healer when they die. Healers get fed up.

    So no, I have no issues with someone running into issues on a job that they admit to hardly playing on what should be challenging content, when they admit to being not at their best. It might be easy for some people ( a minority) , I wouldn't want most people to just to be able to pick it up and master it in those circumstances.
    (5)

  4. #24
    Player
    Avoidy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2020
    Posts
    1,259
    Character
    Chadhadai Oronir
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 83
    Bro you should see some of these people I encounter in PF/DF. Healing good people who know what they're doing versus healing random mouthbreathers is like night and day. I've had groups eat so much damage that they made casual story content feel like a damn EX run and I'm still amazed that it happened. It's so bad I stopped doing it. I wasn't having fun; I was just stressed and pissed at how bad people were in stuff that was supposed to be easy.
    (4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Jfc why did I even post on a bait thread, this place sucks. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

  5. #25
    Player
    nobleboivin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2024
    Posts
    10
    Character
    Dawn Moontails
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    I've been finding healing incredibly hard and difficult. It feels almost impossible to keep the groups up and buffed on top of the fact with positionals and everything else especially once you hit the level 40 dungeons and up. Like bless the healers that can do it in this game. Becuase this game is the hardest to heal in I've ever encountered which sucks cuase I love healer roles. I love the healer classes and lore.
    (0)

  6. #26
    Player
    Carighan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    1,129
    Character
    Carighan Maconar
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Is this sarcasm? There are no real buffs in this game, outside of maybe Astro, and even that isn't buffs you have to "keep up"? Modern MMOs don't really do that any more.
    (2)

  7. #27
    Player
    Emitans's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    341
    Character
    Faorin Shadowclaw
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    What healer positionals are you talking about
    (2)

  8. #28
    Player
    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Posts
    1,419
    Character
    Alinne Seamont
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by nobleboivin View Post
    I've been finding healing incredibly hard and difficult. It feels almost impossible to keep the groups up and buffed on top of the fact with positionals and everything else especially once you hit the level 40 dungeons and up. Like bless the healers that can do it in this game. Becuase this game is the hardest to heal in I've ever encountered which sucks cuase I love healer roles. I love the healer classes and lore.
    There's no buffing on any healer aside from AST- and that has been greatly simplified- I don't see how that's "almost impossible to keep up", in addition, technically in normal content, if someone is a new healer- if they miss half their cards as they are learning, due to be overwhelmed - there are likely to be little consequences. The group will still complete the content as long as they get the necessary heals.

    I can't speak to your prior experience, this game expects healers to deal with mechanics while both healing and DPSing, perhaps that is what you find difficult. I can say that what I find different in this game as opposed to others is that in FFXIV healers wear the same gear as casters, in other games we were regarded as casters but could wear different gear providing higher HP pools that provided higher defensive stats, which made our jobs easier.
    (0)

  9. #29
    Player
    Connor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    2,136
    Character
    Connor Whelan
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    I mean, I’ll be the first to say healing certainly isn’t hard - it’s usually no more than a literal button press lol.

    That said, considering they made Esuna instant cast and most healers still can’t be trusted to use it under any circumstances, I have to wonder how they’d cope if they made it any harder lol. Then again, most healers can’t be trusted now precisely because most healing literally just boils down to ‘press any button for giant potency instant oGCD healing, continue DPS’ing’; can’t expect anyone to learn when there are no lessons ever being given lol.

    They’ve basically created a healer cycle of suffering lol. Healing is super easy, it can’t be harder because people are only able to cope with super easy, even though the only reason they can’t cope is that they know nothing else other than super easy healing.
    (0)

  10. #30
    Player
    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Posts
    1,419
    Character
    Alinne Seamont
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I mean, I’ll be the first to say healing certainly isn’t hard - it’s usually no more than a literal button press lol.

    That said, considering they made Esuna instant cast and most healers still can’t be trusted to use it under any circumstances, I have to wonder how they’d cope if they made it any harder lol. Then again, most healers can’t be trusted now precisely because most healing literally just boils down to ‘press any button for giant potency instant oGCD healing, continue DPS’ing’; can’t expect anyone to learn when there are no lessons ever being given lol.

    They’ve basically created a healer cycle of suffering lol. Healing is super easy, it can’t be harder because people are only able to cope with super easy, even though the only reason they can’t cope is that they know nothing else other than super easy healing.
    I don't know what brought on so many uses of hyperbole i.e. "super easy", and such a low opinion of healers "most healers can' be trusted under any circumstances" , "I wonder how they'd cope if they made it any harder". Did a healer let you die?

    If so, kindly move on, healing can be made more challenging, I have no idea where you get the idea where this "cycle of suffering" comes from nor the idea of healers only being able to cope with only these limits comes from- and looking at your join date that's rather surprising.
    (0)

Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast