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    Doomfist's Avatar
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    Fionn Flamecrest
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    Healing is NOT easy!!!!

    I'm a tank main, and I filled a book run for m3s for shits and giggles, since I already healed that on sage once. Maybe it's because it was late at night, but I was fighting for my life out there!!

    Between dying from taking the wrong spot in fuse or foe (forgot that healers took intercards), to not healing and mitigating enough to get through fusefield cuz I tried using seraphism for an earlier mechanic, and finally dying because instead of looking at the attack name being used, I was looking at my hotbar to see what I can use to pull us through Xboom Special. Also, I didn't realize that corpses can iframe through healer LB3 when they respawn from outside the arena to the center, at which point I was flailing around desperately GCD shielding, only to wipe once more.

    At least we recleared on the very last pull after wipes from me, ddos, and general tomfoolery. But I learned my lesson, never heal savage late at night......
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    Rithris Amaya
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    I do think that learning healer on a savage fight is likely the most difficult. I heard M3S is also a fight designed to test healers a bit.

    The "Healing being easy" was more towards casual content. where you don't need to heal much even in big AOE situations due to serval different issues stacked on each other (no its not just tank sustain that only plays a part in it).

    What people are generally saying/asking for when saying "healing is too easy" is that in all forms of content they should feel impactful and like actual "healers". Instead of only the most difficult kinds of content.
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    It does somewhat depend on the content... Something like Everkeep EX is rather insultingly easy to heal...
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomfist View Post
    I'm a tank main...

    Between dying from taking the wrong spot in fuse or foe (forgot that healers took intercards), to not healing and mitigating enough to get through fusefield cuz I tried using seraphism for an earlier mechanic, and finally dying because instead of looking at the attack name being used, I was looking at my hotbar to see what I can use to pull us through Xboom Special. Also, I didn't realize that corpses can iframe through healer LB3 when they respawn from outside the arena to the center, at which point I was flailing around desperately GCD shielding, only to wipe once more.
    From my own, (very) limited experience running Savage fights when they're current: If you're a tank, you need a good plan for your mitigations. If you're a healer, you need a good plan for your heals. Making sh*t up as you go will likely end poorly, though, depending on the party, you sometimes have no choice but to try.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomfist View Post
    [...]Between dying from taking the wrong spot in fuse or foe (forgot that healers took intercards), to not healing and mitigating enough to get through fusefield cuz I tried using seraphism for an earlier mechanic, and finally dying because instead of looking at the attack name being used, I was looking at my hotbar to see what I can use to pull us through Xboom Special. Also, I didn't realize that corpses can iframe through healer LB3 when they respawn from outside the arena to the center, at which point I was flailing around desperately GCD shielding, only to wipe once more[...]
    If it helps, you devise a heal plan in a rather similar fashion to devising your mitigation plan on tanks. I.e. X cooldown will always be up for Y mechanic (in its most basic sense). Failing to do that in EX or more difficult duties means you're at the mercy of whatever fight or flight response you'll likely spit out and/or your other 7 party member's competencies at covering your mistakes.

    Other than that, general inexperiencedness with the role also impacts decision making i.e. panicking instead of remaining calm and collected when something goes wrong; and that's just to be expected if you don't main the role. Everybody starts somewhere.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 09-30-2024 at 11:50 AM.

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    Percibel Theren
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    Healing is only remotely challenging when learning a fight. After that, you're back to pressing your one damage spell waiting for a raidwide to happen 90% of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    Healing is only remotely challenging when learning a fight. After that, you're back to pressing your one damage spell waiting for a raidwide to happen 90% of the time.
    How is this any different from dps or tank rotations?
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    How is this any different from dps or tank rotations?
    Because a DPS or tank has a full rotation a healer has one button
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Audrey Nocturne
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    Healing is only remotely challenging when learning a fight. After that, you're back to pressing your one damage spell waiting for a raidwide to happen 90% of the time.
    Your static spoils you. Healing is always challenging if you PF, as the average cohealer is more likely to suck than not. And if any readers don't notice this problem... They likely are it.
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    On May 16th 2024, Creative Studio III made the decision to terminate the existence of non-standard Black Mage. The impact of this decision on the job's population will be negligible.

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    That sounds more like 'frustrating' than 'challenging' when the only factor that bars you from a pleasant run is 'how stupid my cohealer is/whoever presses the mits in the party'.

    Most of things becomes moot when one plays it safe by choosing to pump out 1 or 2 safety GCD heals to account for these types of players instead of casting Glaroilficosis, which only needs a pair of watchful eyes, something that a healer is normally already accustomed to. So again, where's the challenge to that?
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