Housing Interior Size Upgrade

[Kytrin]

All I can say after this latest push back is that what we get had BETTER be absolutely SPECTACULAR. I'm talking like...

- All the Tardis upgrades
- Apartment upgrades
- An incredible number of slots to merit this much stalling
- More furnishings releasing at once than all of ARR-EW COMBINED (Including basically everything left from all of the past design contests AND the current one)
- The ability to build up to a large plot on Islands or elsewhere instead of everyone squabbling and fighting over wards

After so long and so much stalling I had better see at least 4 out of those 5 things if not all 5 of them. I fully appreciate the other updates we got this patch (especially for glam) but I'm sick and tired of waiting on housing stuff.

[Darkstride]

(edited in light of Darkstride's comment) welp, guess we're screwed for awhile still.

I'm also disappointed and a little annoyed, but at least this time we got a reason instead of a generic "we need more time".

The translation from Discord was:
-Y "Housing we're in the last steps but we need until 7.5"
-(Explaining why the update takes so long)
-(CPU overload if 1.5x the items)
-Basically the optimization is heavily revolved around the CPU memorization and applying the slots that uses the CPU to memorize it. Server engineers should be more knowledgable in this one so we will not provide too much information on this to prevent misinformation.

7.5 is so far away though lol.

[OdrN]

You forgot:
- Possibility to change the interior configuration (location of the stairs, rooms...)
- New interior designs
- New exterior designs
- Possiblity to adjust the furniture along the z axis
- Graphical update on housing items/yards
- Two dye channels on housing items
- No more limitation on aquariums or special items
- Possibility to use the Glamour Dresser
- Possibility to respawn inside your house
- Full balcony access

But don't worry, I'm sure that, after all this wait, we'll be gracely rewarded with 50 more interior slots by houses and nothing more. Please be grateful about it.

[Perfect_Pounce]

I'm also disappointed and a little annoyed, but at least this time we got a reason instead of a generic "we need more time".

From the sound of it everything he was explaining / referring to was with regard to the item limit increase. Would've been nice if he had addressed why the size upgrade has to wait considering they don't appear to be related in any way. One improvement in 7.4 and the other in 7.5 would've been a lot more palatable to folks waiting basically the entirety of DT for housing developments.

[Themarvin]

Still the issue with actual an upgrade to the item limits, especially for large is too low at 400...

[OdrN]

-(CPU overload if 1.5x the items)

This is quite wild, 1.5x the items was the minimum I was hoping for this update and we may not even have this. The 50 more slots may not be a joke at this point.

[CidHeiral]

Would've been nice if he had addressed why the size upgrade has to wait considering they don't appear to be related in any way.

The Tardis interior update will make it so theoretically all 792,000 plots in the game could be a large at once. They have to calculate and make hardware adjustments for that potentiality, so it makes the most sense to just include the item expansion in that math and roll it all out at once.

I love decorating and I'm bummed out about it as well but I can see why wards going from six larges to sixty, with presumably double the number of items in each one, could take a while to get sorted on the backend. Hopefully the wait means they also have some other housing goodies in store for that patch that they haven't revealed yet.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

I just hope when they announce the next Xpack they clearly list which feature/improvement will happen during which patch rather then claim they all come with the expansion.

[Darkstride]

From the sound of it everything he was explaining / referring to was with regard to the item limit increase. Would've been nice if he had addressed why the size upgrade has to wait considering they don't appear to be related in any way. One improvement in 7.4 and the other in 7.5 would've been a lot more palatable to folks waiting basically the entirety of DT for housing developments.

He said (according to translation) that the interior size feature is actually already complete. The issue with releasing it is that they can't currently handle every single house converting to a Large interior along with the increased item limit that accompanies it. So they are working on fixing the technical limitation part of it.

You can read the full translation on the FFXIV discord. He describes the issue in more detail.

[CidHeiral]

Here's the fan translation of Yoshida's explanation:

Yoshida: Right now I'm seeing everyone from Housing side feeling jealous here, but we are currently entering the final stage of the optimization push to increase the placement limit for for the addition of slots for outdoor furnishings and indoor furniture....I'm so sorry that it ended up taking that much time, and I'm very sure we can get it done by Patch 7.5. I'm confident that we are able to increase the outdoor furnishing/indoor furnishing placement amount by 1.5x, and we're currently entering the final stage of optimizations. Currently we're focusing on the speeding up the servers, and that's what we are doing right now.

Foxclon: So if you could provide us detailed explanation on the matter...

Yoshida: For this...umm, well, you see...basically the so-called number of objects that can be placed — meaning where the players place these objects — are information we obviously have to manage entirely via our servers. Of course this is a given when the players log out of the game, I mean, they have to log out, right? So this means when the amount becomes 1.5 times higher than the total volume, our beloved CPU-kun has to keep track of it all, and you can imagine our CPU-kun goes “Gyaaaah!” and “Aaaah!” with that kind of work load. Under normal operations, we can manage it somehow, sure; but let's say when maintenance happens and we have to restart the server (for example), if we turn off CPU-kun's power, you can imagine CPU-kun would just go blank face at you. Now, imagine me go "Now, CPU-kun, rise from your slumber so that you can welcome our lord players into the gaaaaame!". When that happens, CPU-kun will have to go through the process to memorize everything all over again, and when the volume is now 1.5 times more, the CPU-kun will just hold its head and go “WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!”, which cause the time it takes to open the server getting higher... Yep, that's exactly it. In other words, and to simply put, we're optimizing them so that the server memorizes them quicker than what they're doing currently. And then you see, since we have so many worlds, if we get into cases where we need to perform emergency maintenance for whatever reason that comes up, like taking it down for a second and fixing it right away, it will end up taking three times as long... or something like that.
Plus, this was mentioned in the past but I mentioned something about how you can get your housing interior to be glamoured into L size regardless of your current house size (Size L, Size M, Size S), right? Well the system is almost complete, actually, it's finished — but here's the thing: assuming everyone switches to L size, this will also cause the number of furniture slot placement to increase, right? In this case, CPU-kun would...well, imagine if the CPU-kun have to perform two of these tasks simultaneously...

Foxclon: This means CPU-kun would already...

Yoshida: Yep, imagine that CPU-kun's eyes would go bloodshot and wring my neck because of all the sufferring...so for now, we are going to work on the final stage of optimizing the numbers where players can place and manage, and then increase these numbers. That way, we can then increase the amount of placement number for S-size house owners, same goes for M-size house owners, and finally the L-size house owners as well. So we really need to get this part done properly first. Once this is done, we can finally work on allowing players to be able to change their interior size while ignoring that house size...we're aiming to deliver not only for indoor furnishings but also outdoor furnishings simultaneously, so we're definitely in the final push for the optimization. So it would be greatly appreciated if players could just wait a little more...We're working and determined to make it happen without players having to get this update on the next expansion, and once we're done with this, we can then FINALLY move into the glamour plates....and so on...!

Foxclon: One by one, in order...

Yoshida: The plates are the same as well! You can imagine the servers go "ARRGHGHGHGHGH" over this. Of course, being able to swap them instantly means it will involve some form of server communication and other factors. (Some parts omitted) Well, beyond that, we also want to add more content...especially as a future challenge, where we want to add more things we can do in public fields※. You are aware that we can only display current buffs up to 30 in a screen now, yes? We really want to optimize that and do something about it, making it possible to develop more ways to play...Well this would involve future content and I might getting ahead of myself here, but we plan to optimize things in order, step-by-step like this, making everyone's experience a lot more comfortable. For now, glamour is going to go through huge changes, and we are now working on the final phases of optimization on housing here, so I'd appreciate everyone's support on the matter.

(Translator Note: ※ Public field likely refers to the zones that are not cities. You know, the place where you do your FATE / Sightseeing log / taking Gposes)

tl;dr: It's taking a while because it's a difficult technical hurdle to roll out both the Tardis interior and the item expansion without the server exploding.