Out of touch? PLL

[Kes13a]

Kind of feels like they're taking the route of, "Pretend nothing is wrong while we continue to make the game for nobody."

you are so wrong! they clearly make the game for whatever baboons they use as "play testers" and get all their feedback from.

its just inconvenient that none of the feedback people are actual gamers.

[CVXIV]

idk the new stuff seems kinda neat
lot more to it than I thought, given that this post was the first thing I saw about it
so when I checked out the summary someone posted on the subreddit I was pleasantly surprised

[angienessyo]

I'm pretty excited about the patch content! I think Cloud of Darkness Chaotic is actually dropping at a pretty good time. There's a lot of people that do EX trials and savage, but a pretty small number of people that do ultimates. So the EX+Cloud of Darkness is going to give those players something to work on instead of only giving the most hardcore people an ultimate. I plan on doing ultimate+Cloud of Darkness+the EX so I'm looking forward to it.

[AnimaAnimus]

They made a mistake naming it a PLL. It was basically Yoshida giving a brief overview of a few things they have coming down the pipeline and calling it a PLL raised everyone's expectations too high.

I was however glad to hear Yoshida is actually overseeing what is going on and the fact that the trailer hasn't even been made yet, the patch isn't until November, along with the fact that Wuk was nowhere to be seen, makes me think things were scrapped and they are trying to quickly rewrite and remake a lot of it in hopes they can still salvage the expansion as a whole. 2-3 years of what we got in 7.0 would not bode well for 8.0

[Awkward]

They made a mistake naming it a PLL. It was basically Yoshida giving a brief overview of a few things they have coming down the pipeline and calling it a PLL raised everyone's expectations too high.

I was however glad to hear Yoshida is actually overseeing what is going on and the fact that the trailer hasn't even been made yet, the patch isn't until November, along with the fact that Wuk was nowhere to be seen, makes me think things were scrapped and they are trying to quickly rewrite and remake a lot of it in hopes they can still salvage the expansion as a whole. 2-3 years of what we got in 7.0 would not bode well for 8.0

Wuk was in the slide for 'more main scenario quests' so they are certainly going to be there in 7.1 as omnipresent as ever, especially since it's probably going to be focused on Gulool Ja Jr. and they made sure their Mary Sue would play a critical role in their story too by becoming their guardian. It just probably wasn't a focal point of the PLL because they know the reception was bad but don't care enough to change anything at this point and are just going to "continue making content for nobody" as said by another user.

[ReynTime]

Let me tell you why nothing substantial will change for no raiders.

I saw the Live Letter with the YouTube chat on. In the japanese channel. When they made the great "revelation" that there would be more hildibrand quests... which they confirmed more than once even BEFORE dawntrail came out, the chat was acting all surprised and like they were giving the greatest gift ever out of the kindness of their hearts.

The average XIV player will still get ultra hyped when the same things get announced for every patch, in every expansion. Like a parody of a star wars fan that loses their shit over seeing AT-ATs or something.

[Cidel]

I saw the Live Letter with the YouTube chat on. In the japanese channel. When they made the great "revelation" that there would be more hildibrand quests... which they confirmed more than once even BEFORE dawntrail came out, the chat was acting all surprised and like they were giving the greatest gift ever out of the kindness of their hearts.

The average XIV player will still get ultra hyped when the same things get announced for every patch, in every expansion. Like a parody of a star wars fan that loses their shit over seeing AT-ATs or something.

This, so much.

Been noticing this a lot once I started sitting in their Twitch live letters within the past year or two, but the hype spam over the most miniscule things that don't even last longer than a week or have no real tangible impact to the content life of the game ("OMG I NEED THAT MINION IN MY LIIIIIFE!" BEST PATCH EVAR!" "Ooooh the cute new umbrella, UWU") despite how shallow everything else seems really makes it look like a large portion of the playerbase are just as responsible for the stagnation of the game as the devs are, by dint of how easily (and superficially) they are placated by minor and low-effort additions simply because they are new. I know, I know, "not the same players as the ones complaining" and all that, but it really is the meme of the cartoon dog sitting in a burning room saying "this is fine." It's like they forget all of their grievances the moment the devs start jingling their car keys over them. So it's little wonder that the devs keep churning out the same old stuff with barely-new paint slapped on.

[OgruMogru]

I actually think this LL moved along at a much better pace than we usually get. They have a tendency to spend waaaay too long on every powerpoint slide and it sets off my wriggly tantrummy adhd brain and I lose interest. I wish I could feel excited about new msq but I don't even feel interested. I'm also not a Hildy fan and will be actively avoiding that content and I'm praying they never tie any other games systems in with it again. I do not wish to perceive it. 24 savage looks cool! A little deflated that it's not a whole raid - I like the environmental immersion. I wanna feel like I'm going to a place instead of just being slapped straight into a bossroom with no foreplay - but I get that's a lot of extra development time on top of making a whole new fight. I just hope the new battle content is fun because all other aspects of the game have really left me unsatisfied. I live in perpetual delusional hope that they remove glamour restrictions so I can find a way to make my own fun -_-

[Aneshda]

When Yoshi P. said Endwalker is a closed chapter and with Dawntrail we start a new adventure, a vacation... and now when I see what we will get in mid-November:

- Cloud of Darkness: the third fight against this boss, just a few other features, how unexpectedly new
- Byakko: the second fight against this boss, just a few other features, really?
- Ryne & Gaia: what can I say?
- Hildibrand: I think we can't do without this boring, really humorless stuff
- More Wuk Lamat: really nice, I almost missed them... not!
- More Sphene, Bakool Ja Ja, Zoraal Ja... how quickly Zoraal Ja rose from the dead.
- More Pelupelu: really interesting... not!
- A change to houses but not to apartments, because the money we pay monthly was probably no longer enough for that.
- a few lousy PvP changes but no new map
- A new dungeon: UH OH with a pane of glass as a wall... will the wall hold? UH OH or will it break? When Yoshi P. presented this dungeon I had the feeling that he thought the spectators/paying players were completely stupid.
- New raid Echoes of Vana'diel: I think just as much of it as I did of the last raid, which I still haven't finished.

Overall, not much content for a 4.5 month wait. Casual players were almost completely forgotten.

[Catwho]

I listened to the Mr Happy review of the PLL while I was driving to mini golf this afternoon. After the discussion of Savage 24 Man Alliance raid being Cloud of Darkness, I went "FUCK YEAH" because that's the kind of content I live for.

I loved Delibrum Reginae! And back in FFXI I ran a Dynamis linkshell, which was up to 64 players. Managing four alliances at once was a fun train wreck. As a Ghorn bard, I would literally be passed around to three alliances during our 2 hour burst, trying to get off as many buff song as I could before it wore off.