Out of touch? PLL

[ReynTime]

Same. I was admittedly somewhat amused by it initially, but the same slapstick gags over and over and over again quickly started to annoy me - I completely fail to understand why I'm supposed to find Godawfulbert running around in his underpants for the 203rd time funny.

I also find it quite offensive that the story plays off Nashu having a stalker for laughs.

I generally still find Hildibrand quests funny for the most part. But they do feature the worst kind of japanese humor often... The predictable running gags. It's why I didn't find that Hrothgar that people seem to find HILARIOUS funny at all after the second time he did his shthick.

[Hallarem]

Hildibrand was funny to me until it started to mess with the integrity of the lore. And promoted itself from sidequest slapstick into relic quest and more. Because "everyone loves it so much".

Sometimes I wish I was as easily entertained by a set of jingling keys in terms of repetitive lackluster content without proper systems of progression, quest design, class design and gear design and shoddy writing.
Life would be simple.

[Reinha]

ur literally getting instanced housing. thats as casual happy as it gets

No we're not. It's the same ward housing that auto demolishes in 45 days of not entering and has to be won in the lottery.

[Hyperia]

The content drought has forced me into taking a break, possibly the first major one I have taken since the game came out a decade ago.

Going from 3 months to 4.5 along with 1 new dungeon instead of 3, everything now tied to the MSQ and no side quests anymore. Where is the relic, it used to come out in .1 patches and for the love of… if I get it via tomes again….

I now avoid the expert roulette as I do not want to play the same dungeon for 9 months straight, I can’t do savage as a new parent and my schedule is too iffy to try to clear an ex trial so that leaves me without stuff to do for probably the next year or beyond.

I also play a healer and don’t like to tank or dps so there is that problem, healers are no longer needed anymore…

So.. tldr.. lack of content and being needed means I’m on a break. I’ll logon to keep my house and access to the forms but not adding much more time to my 18,500 hours played until they add more.

[TemporalFruitsAndVeggies]

I’ll logon to keep my house and access to the forms but not adding much more time to my 18,500 hours played until they add more.

It's hard to be too salty about getting 18,500 hours out of a game, to be fair. That's slightly over five hours a day, without missing a single day, for ten full years. That said, I understand that it's sad to see what feels like the end of an era for a game you've enjoyed so long.

I'm not surprised by the PLL; I imagine the 7.1 patch has been in the works since before 7.0 launched, so it was never going to address most player criticism. But I don't expect the rest of the 7.x cycle to, either, for the same reason. Ultimately it's just more stuff to sit in town and queue for, further cementing the fact that the game is more of an arena battle simulator than an MMORPG. It seems like the devs want to do more with the game, but are so locked into the formula and old, dated systems that they're not sure how to break away. I'll go for BiS for the two roles I play, since I like the group I've been playing with, but I have no interest in grinding Ultimates for months (Savage is the perfect difficulty for me), no interest in housing, etc. I'll just keep playing GW2 to get my "running around an open world with other people" fix.

[Reinha]

There has been a lot of casual players here complaining that they have been forgotten, but literally, none of them are saying what kind of content they want.

Lmao. Casuals have been very clear about what they want but players like you and the devs too like to pretend the feedback doesn't exist.

- More interesting dungeons that are more rewarding. This is the bread and butter MMO content and all we get is to repeat a boring hallway (which they even cut down to one dungeon per patch) 5 times a week for currency, and the loot sucks too. Why aren't there more dungeons and why aren't they designed like variants and why don't they drop actual useful gear (even if you had to do a challenge or something to get it)?

- The only practical alternative for a casual player is to follow a train to kill mobs that die too quickly. Nothing has been done to fix hunts or make other content worth doing for tomes.

- Having a relic quest and/or an exploratory zone at launch. Also having a relic quest you actually have to play the game for. The most recent relic weapons basically completed themselves.

- Instanced housing that is worth interacting with. Fixing housing constraints regarding item placement and item limits.

- Proper implementation of Glamour, including a glamour log, hats and hair for all races, cross job glamours and enough plates to cover all jobs.

- An actual progression system. Almost every piece of casual content is pointless to do because there are no rewards. No talents, no relic progression, no stat boosts or special materia, no battle gear. The main progression formats are the MB / the normal raid, tomestones and savage. That's it. To maximize boredom, every job plays the same and is designed for the lowest common denominator.

All of these suggestions have been made countless times for years. I was a collector so most of this never bothered me but anyone with half a brain can figure out why casuals don't bother playing anymore. My husband quit in Endwalker for this very reason. All he wanted to do was to log in and fight something to get stronger, but that content didn't exist. So he stopped logging in.

[Sacae]

I’d like more extreme level content. I no longer have the will nor the time to prog savage and my schedule is very irregular which might make me miss the release of a new tier by 3-4 weeks. Extreme is the right difficulty for me: not completely brain dead yet doesn’t require the precision and the body checks of savage. It requires engagement yet it’s pretty much guaranteed it can be cleared in one evening without a static and if you are late in the content because you had to travel for business, you can still catch up in no time while trying to PF for a fresh savage prog is a nightmare if you’re late. Extreme is the difficulty I was expecting from criterion when they initially mentioned them but nooo, it was savage again and variant dungeons were entirely brain dead even on solo. This game needs more midcore content. One trial per major patch is not enough.

7.1 has 2, the Extreme and the Unreal.

[RingoNoyamano]

I don't think Yoshida actually plays this game anymore. The 'creative' in business unit 3 was replaced by AI and some interns. I'd love to be proven wrong.

[Daralii]

I don't think Yoshida actually plays this game anymore. The 'creative' in business unit 3 was replaced by AI and some interns. I'd love to be proven wrong.

He's said himself that running CS3/CBU3, getting the new projects going, and his responsibilities as a member of the board keep him from doing more than glancing XIV's way every now and again. They wheel him out for press purposes because people still like and trust him for some reason, but it's all just a script with no personal element.

[ReynTime]

So.. tldr.. lack of content and being needed means I’m on a break. I’ll logon to keep my house and access to the forms but not adding much more time to my 18,500 hours played until they add more.

This is why SE doesn't care for what complaints people have. "Taking a break but still subbing" or "being disappointed but keeping my house" is still a big win for them.