Its so sad honestly to see people still invalidating casuals opinions.
As someone who has been in MMO-s since 2007, i saw this happen many times.
Elitism kills MMO-s and basicly every multiplayer game in general, every single time.
The more the devs cater towards the hardcore aspect of a game, the more casuals will be dissatisfied and leave.
The game becomes unapproachable for new players and it becomes a closed ever shrinking group of the same people.
Have no illusions, the casuals are the lifeblood of every single online game, even the sweatiest games imaginable is kept alive by the casuals.
They are the ones who buy the cosmetics, not the world first raiders.
The minute they are gone, is the beginning of the end. No amount of Savage or Ultimate Raid is going to keep the game alive at that point.
Coincidentally, the ones who are trying to invalidate the casuals concerns almost everytime think that its just about skill.
What if said player just not interested in stressing themselves out? I have multiple server first kills in other mmo-s and have led weekly scoreboards whenever i wanted to participate.
Because of that, i know for a fact, that i can engage in any content any game throws at me if i want to and do well.
The thing is however, you will eventually reach a point in your gaming life when you realize you dont have to prove anything to anyone and you are not a noob for playing a mode that dosn't stress you out needlessly with insanely high damage or turning the enemies into "bullet sponges".
Figuring out a mechanic is fun regardless how much damage it does and how long does it take to make the boss even cast it.
I would argue anyone any time of the day, that an ultimate or savage raid would be just as fun to do, if the boss damage numbers are tuned down and not everything is borderline unrecoverable if you did it wrong.
The spectacle is the same, its still fun to try and do the mechanic as correctly as possible, but if not, who cares, you still learn, you still get have fun, get kills and loot and eventually you learn to do it flawlessly.
And the sad thing is that i bet some people are triggered by the mere thought of such a mode existing for hardcore fights, fearing that it invalidates their kills because they learned it the proper way or something.

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