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    Rui Aii
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    The game would be better without stats

    Stats on melds are useless and barley noticeable..
    The whole character stat window is useless

    I am not against the idea of having to empower stats but I believe the this will not work for the game..

    Why not replacing stats with additional conditional skills?

    additional skill will be activated if X happens
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    Bzzzt Buzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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    Have you ever considered letting your thoughts develop beyond the "I've just had this thought" phase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubmarineAlt View Post
    Have you ever considered letting your thoughts develop beyond the "I've just had this thought" phase?
    its called "General Discussion" for a reason something called "Discussion"

    but it seems that you are triggered for no reason.. it look pathetic to be honest
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyYoda View Post
    its called "General Discussion" for a reason something called "Discussion"

    but it seems that you are triggered for no reason.. it look pathetic to be honest
    Jumping right to "triggered" when I suggested your half-baked and demonstratably false opinion is half-baked, huh? I do believe you're projecting.

    Pro-tip: Something not mattering to you doesn't mean it doesn't actually matter, and this topic has been done to death. Or did the thought of "Maybe this has come up before" never occur to you? You never want a discussion. You want validation. Apologies, I'm not giving it to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubmarineAlt View Post
    Jumping right to "triggered" when I suggested your half-baked and demonstratably false opinion is half-baked, huh? I do believe you're projecting.

    Pro-tip: Something not mattering to you doesn't mean it doesn't actually matter, and this topic has been done to death. Or did the thought of "Maybe this has come up before" never occur to you? You never want a discussion. You want validation. Apologies, I'm not giving it to you.
    You jumped at them though, Could have been less pedant.
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Ilvl is one thing that can kinda lock people out of high-end content... Unless you jump in on Week 1, you kinda start needing Savage Gear to do Savage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    You jumped at them though, Could have been less pedant.
    I disagree. When someone presents an idea as extreme as "Remove an entire system," then fails to provide solid reasoning for that idea, or even a simple explanation that solidly answers the question of why, I believe that person should be called out as such. Especially when the topic has been done to death.

    In this case, instead of typing a dissertation explaining why the idea is flawed and why it won't be implemented ever (with quotes from Square, since they've spoken on the latter half of the topic), I recognize that OP has a consistent track record of making these sorts of posts that lack any critical thought. So, to save my time, I've gone the route that I've gone.

    Op's immediate attack proves to me that I've chosen the best path.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Well yes, it would be good, but the problem is "what about the casual players who don't interact with it at all or meld anything at all".

    Anyway, titanmen made a whole debate on that a while ago that actually developed thoughts on it... https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...gear-treadmill

    There was also this https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...roying-balance
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    Lucie Bonney
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    I mean...there is a point that melds are basically useless. Every class goes for crit/det/Dh anyway. . Everything else...nope. Sure rare cases like monk and skill speed...but you could also give out gear with those stats on it. And in downscaled content (which basically every Roulette thing is), you dont get any use out of melded materia
    On the other hand...we have no talent points nor anything that would make it an rpg with any choice at all. So just keep it in and still give an illusion you could change your playstyle at all by melding different.
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    Last edited by Lyndina; 09-28-2024 at 02:05 AM.

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    Healers would celebrate, if they don't have to avoid every gear piece with piety into it.
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