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  1. #61
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    How spot if a game is WOKE:
    - A lot of focus on a strong female character(s) ( often main character, or take up big screentime)
    - Strong good written males character is nonexisiting, and if they are' they're place in the [ toxic masculinity] check box
    - Main quest or side quest contains, at least 1 or two stories that purly focus on gender (like gay/lesb/trans).
    - Diveristy but feel forced and fake;race swapping, doesn't feel natural, doesn't match the setting..etc
    - Lack or Zero attaractive characters ingame.

    There is probably more, but those are easiest one to spot.

    How get ride of WOKE:
    - NEVER PREORDER
    - DO NOT BUY woke games.
    if many enough players do this,
    the product(s) will sell bad = investors will retreat
    = big dmg to company.
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    SCH/AST/DNC/VPR/SMN

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeastria View Post
    How spot if a game is WOKE:
    - A lot of focus on a strong female character(s) ( often main character, or take up big screentime)
    - Strong good written males character is nonexisiting, and if they are' they're place in the [ toxic masculinity] check box
    - Main quest or side quest contains, at least 1 or two stories that purly focus on gender (like gay/lesb/trans).
    - Diveristy but feel forced and fake;race swapping, doesn't feel natural, doesn't match the setting..etc
    - Lack or Zero attaractive characters ingame.

    There is probably more, but those are easiest one to spot.

    How get ride of WOKE:
    - NEVER PREORDER
    - DO NOT BUY woke games.
    if many enough players do this,
    the product(s) will sell bad = investors will retreat
    = big dmg to company.
    With marketing, they generally want to put some of the best parts on display... But if the entire marketing is showing off how bad the characters look, and talking about their race and/or sexuality, you know it's not going to be a good product.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronibosch View Post
    Isn't China a major consumer of Disney media, like Marvel and Star Wars?
    China, like America, by sheer population is going to be a major consumer of everything though.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
    China, like America, by sheer population is going to be a major consumer of everything though.
    I guess I'm more confused by him claiming that only Westerners (Americans and Europeans) like "fast food" media like Marvel movies. It's a strangely reductive view of the world, is all.
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    Last edited by ronibosch; 09-28-2024 at 10:50 PM.

  5. #65
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    I feel like it's got to be exhausting to view every piece of media you consume through a lens of "how woke is it?"
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by TemporalFruitsAndVeggies View Post
    I feel like it's got to be exhausting to view every piece of media you consume through a lens of "how woke is it?"
    I agree. It also glosses over the more important questions like "Is it well written?" or "Are the characters and plot consistent?"
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  7. #67
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    aaaaa look out its the woke mind virus aaaaaa theyre gonna trans our dogs
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronibosch View Post
    I guess I'm more confused by him claiming that only Westerners (Americans and Europeans) like "fast food" media like Marvel movies. It's a strangely reductive view of the world, is all.
    If only 10% of Chinese would watch Marvels, they are still going to have larger number than Western
    Asians also protect their children.
    Children are allow to make their own decisions after they grow up
    For example, Taiwan allows same sex marriage but you don’t see their media broadcasting DEI
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronibosch View Post
    I guess I'm more confused by him claiming that only Westerners (Americans and Europeans) like "fast food" media like Marvel movies. It's a strangely reductive view of the world, is all.
    It certainly is and pretty racist too. Though I suppose there is an element of truth (as with all stereotypes) in that it appears to be predominantly western and westernised organisations and services that have increasingly adopted short form and clickbait content, which suggests that attention spans are shrinking faster in western cultures than elsewhere. Much to my own displeasure I'm guilty of it too, when someone says "... according to our 100 page report..." I tend to want a summary of it, rather than read the whole thing. It might also have something to do with a generally increasing pace of life, with more information becoming more widely available from a greater number of sources, all competing with entertainment for people's time and attention. You could spend a day or two reading and thinking about 'The Prince' or pass that time running multiple films, untold youtube videos, playing video games all while interacting with social media.

    Not to say it's unique to the western world, just that it appears to be happening faster here; probably as a result of the west being the foremost producer of media and platforms later exported to the rest of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
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    I can't really say what most Americans are exposing their children to (I'd say there's a lack of parental surveillance when it comes to Internet, based off of my own experiences with American youth), but I live in a relatively conservative state, so I'm not often exposed to DEI, not even at work.

    I looked it up and found that a large amount of Americans enjoy Marvel, so maybe he's onto something. xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
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    That's a fair point. You reminded me of my time working as an instructional assistant at a public school; it took a lot of effort keeping my students on task.

    I have a fairly short attention span too, especially when I feel like I'm short on time (which is sadly most of the time nowadays). I have to use text-to-speech to keep myself focused on my readings for grad school, for instance.
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    Last edited by ronibosch; 09-28-2024 at 11:53 PM.

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