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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    You know why I loved Tifa's redesign in Remake/Rebirth? Because as a big busted woman, I know that having Tifa without a sports bra doing kick flips and cartwheels would have been PAINFUL. And putting her in a pair of boy shorts under her skirt instead of white panties? Also realistic. it's also what Lightning has under her skirt, and it's how modern tennis skirts are made. You don't want that stuff riding up and getting stuck in uncomfortable places.

    Her redesign was fantastic. Nothing DEI or woke about it. Just... modern.

    Whiny fanboys called it censorship. Actual women like me called it realism.
    I guess the name "Final FANTASY" means its supposed to be realistic?
    -Like Cloud swinging around a sword that probably weighs 2 times as much as he does.
    -Barret climbing up cliffs with 1 hand.

    Almost everything in Final Fantasy is unrealistic and that is a good thing. Who the hell is playing a Fantasy game for realism?
    Strange how realism only seems important regarding female bodies and their outfits.

    There is a difference between realism and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    At the risk of being jumped on by pitchforks. I'm gonna say it. Most men in games are designed to be ideal as well, either by having perfect chiseled abs (those things take a loooooot of work to maintain in real life).
    Or towering broad bodies, pretty boy'ish face designs, muscular, strong and we men usually don't mind it, because they are something we would like to be and can jump into the boots of "being them" for a bit. Or have some qualities that we perhaps would like to possess or aspire into. I personally don't see the 10 gigaton chad space marine and say "I wish he was smaller, and lankier" for a more realistic non-sexualized image.

    As for women characters in video games, I can only speak of a male perspective and personal taste. I sip coffee, I see something I like, neurons activate, I say "damn" and life goes on. I've heard from women though that prefer playing 14 to WoW that "I play 14 because I can make my character look hot".

    So let a rip #freecloudscheeks I guess? I'm all for equal opportunity. Male characters are shirtless all the time in games with their oiled abs out on display, hell even if 14's body graphics are still PS2 level, that Estinien push up scene with sweat dropping off? Cmon.
    There is actually a kind of epidemic of steroid use among young men trying to live up to impossible body standards that are being pushed harming their body/health long term.

    But even then i still want male characters in my fantasy games look good / ripped and just over the top masculine.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    I think it is fair if women are dressed scantily and stupidly in games if and only if men are equally as scantily and stupidly dressed in the exact same game as well. If Tifas chest is hanging out weirdly, then I think that it is unfair that Clouds buttcheeks arent hanging out weirdly as well. You may not like it, but this is reality. Undress male characters more in a way that is aggressively sexually provocative no matter how serious the battle scene. Games are about escapism and that exactly is escapism. Thank you.
    So after that shirtless sweaty estinien workout scene we're going to get one for Lyse right
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  4. #114
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    If we're doing the body representation thing, then we need a fat dude with a girl way out of his league to be madly in love with him too.*



    *This is a joke, I love the Chais.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by pecorino View Post
    I'm so sorry but I think you forgot your /s tag.

    To claim that Blackrock and Vanguard are somehow bastions of wokeism is absolutely insane. You really don't have to say wild stuff like this to make your point, you can just stick to the normal talking points. You discredit yourself with reaches like this.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    So after that shirtless sweaty estinien workout scene we're going to get one for Lyse right
    Sad thing is Lyse is level 1/10 on the bust slider as far as I can tell.

    Considering she's kickboxer, though, any cutscene with her that has even a sheen of realism would involve the 2B booty. Because that girl could probably squat with Estinien in a fireman carry.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    Sad thing is Lyse is level 1/10 on the bust slider as far as I can tell.
    Flat is justice!
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  8. #118
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    I don't know what they've used to gather the particular data, but you can see her sliders stats in the appearance tab here... She's got the bust slider at 0.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I don't know what they've used to gather the particular data, but you can see her sliders stats in the appearance tab here... She's got the bust slider at 0.
    Not sure if this would stop anyone from wanting a shirtless sweaty workout cutscene though.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I don't know what they've used to gather the particular data, but you can see her sliders stats in the appearance tab here... She's got the bust slider at 0.
    Lyse is fine. Would definitely want her in the FF14 Onsen Episode (that we will never get)
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