Dawntrail Dragoon Feedback

[enhasa]

The oGCD barf issue plagues a lot of jobs but none as severely as Dragoon. I have never really enjoyed Dragoon a ton but I know a lot of people who loved how it once played and I enjoyed playing with Dragoons and watching them pop off. When I saw that they got shoved into a somehow even stricter and yet less elegant rotation I could only feel sympathy as a DRK player who saw her favorite job get the life beaten out of it in ShB lol. Like I miss feeling like weaponskills could be a larger contributor of my job's damage profile but because so much of it is in my oGCDs crit is king and SkS can never be meaningful etc etc you've heard this gripe before but back to DRG/DRK-

Like. They kind of have similar woes. The nuance of resource management is gone, instead of a steady ebb and flow outside of burst phase we do next to nothing until it's time to dump, and the dump itself is pretty much just given to us because what if a movement heavy phase or irregular downtime prevent us from bursting?

Ah, but in their infinite wisdom, CBU3 has the answer- they just give it to the player for free every 2m! Much better than having us just start the fight with a capped gauge, and giving us abilities to use during downtime to recoup resources we can't gain without a boss to hit! They have to go in with heavyhanded solutions otherwise people that don't like reading ability tooltips might not clear Savage!

[CidHeiral]

Much better than having us just start the fight with a capped gauge, and giving us abilities to use during downtime to recoup resources we can't gain without a boss to hit! They have to go in with heavyhanded solutions otherwise people that don't like reading ability tooltips might not clear Savage!

Pretty much.

[HikariKurosawa]

The oGCD barf issue plagues a lot of jobs but none as severely as Dragoon. I have never really enjoyed Dragoon a ton but I know a lot of people who loved how it once played and I enjoyed playing with Dragoons and watching them pop off. When I saw that they got shoved into a somehow even stricter and yet less elegant rotation I could only feel sympathy as a DRK player who saw her favorite job get the life beaten out of it in ShB lol. Like I miss feeling like weaponskills could be a larger contributor of my job's damage profile but because so much of it is in my oGCDs crit is king and SkS can never be meaningful etc etc you've heard this gripe before but back to DRG/DRK-

Like. They kind of have similar woes. The nuance of resource management is gone, instead of a steady ebb and flow outside of burst phase we do next to nothing until it's time to dump, and the dump itself is pretty much just given to us because what if a movement heavy phase or irregular downtime prevent us from bursting?

Ah, but in their infinite wisdom, CBU3 has the answer- they just give it to the player for free every 2m! Much better than having us just start the fight with a capped gauge, and giving us abilities to use during downtime to recoup resources we can't gain without a boss to hit! They have to go in with heavyhanded solutions otherwise people that don't like reading ability tooltips might not clear Savage!

Dragoon is pretty much the oGCD job, and it was way worse when you didn't have burst for the first raid buff window. "elegant" lol. So elegant for the rotation to work really poorly in all forms of content. If they ever add eye management back to dragoon I'll just unsubscribe.

[VerySadDRG]

Dragoon is pretty much the oGCD job, and it was way worse when you didn't have burst for the first raid buff window. "elegant" lol. So elegant for the rotation to work really poorly in all forms of content. If they ever add eye management back to dragoon I'll just unsubscribe.

The oGCD job that somehow gets less and less oGCDs to press, and person who says it still doesn't have lvl 100? Baits used to be believable.

Also, M6S add phase really shows how bad that decision to cut Dragon Gauge was. While RPR and VPR can nuke Yan with their Enshrouds as soon as it appears, DRG can just sit and wait at least until 2m burst window, while barely dealing any meaningful damage to it. Thanks, Square, it truly was a rework of all time.

[HikariKurosawa]

The oGCD job that somehow gets less and less oGCDs to press, and person who says it still doesn't have lvl 100? Baits used to be believable.

Also, M6S add phase really shows how bad that decision to cut Dragon Gauge was. While RPR and VPR can nuke Yan with their Enshrouds as soon as it appears, DRG can just sit and wait at least until 2m burst window, while barely dealing any meaningful damage to it. Thanks, Square, it truly was a rework of all time.

Oh wow dude you got to level 100 and did some endgame content in an mmo that totally makes your opinion more relevant than mine. Bait used to be believable lol. Good one.

DRG is one of the top damage dealers right now and it is not a selfish dps. It already has enough oGCD at level 95, and it gets another one at level 100. I think that if you want to serve an argument, it's best to just do it rather than to try to gatekeep opinions on something that is entirely subjective in a game that takes little to no skill to begin with. It's an mmo. You're not playing something hard, you're playing an mmo. Even the best players of mmos take tons of attempts to get an encounter down. It's a memorization game. Trial through failure. Stop talking like you're an elite gamer. Nobody playing an mmo is elite. If they were elite level skill, they would be playing a game that actually demands elite level ability.

[Reginald_Cain]

Oh wow dude you got to level 100 and did some endgame content in an mmo that totally makes your opinion more relevant than mine. Bait used to be believable lol. Good one.

DRG is one of the top damage dealers right now and it is not a selfish dps. It already has enough oGCD at level 95, and it gets another one at level 100. I think that if you want to serve an argument, it's best to just do it rather than to try to gatekeep opinions on something that is entirely subjective in a game that takes little to no skill to begin with. It's an mmo. You're not playing something hard, you're playing an mmo. Even the best players of mmos take tons of attempts to get an encounter down. It's a memorization game. Trial through failure. Stop talking like you're an elite gamer. Nobody playing an mmo is elite. If they were elite level skill, they would be playing a game that actually demands elite level ability.

that level 100 ogcd is the same button as stardiver so it only gets used once a minute not really adding a lot of difficulty

[Reginald_Cain]

Dragoon is pretty much the oGCD job, and it was way worse when you didn't have burst for the first raid buff window. "elegant" lol. So elegant for the rotation to work really poorly in all forms of content. If they ever add eye management back to dragoon I'll just unsubscribe.

Yeah making lotd usable in opener was a great change ngl