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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    I don't like those "I'm gonna single out your point so I can ignore the big picture you wanted to point out". If you don't have that problem, good for you but that doesn't mean it's not a problem for others anyway.

    Yes, they announced Field operation. But the fact it's in 7-8 month let me think they didn't have a deep analysis on why the backlash was so huge. This was my point, a mmo need some content to keep you occupied if you want it. The fact they think they can still go 7-8 month (once again, we got no dates, but it's estimation from the previous expansions) with no such content (we don't even have the previous expension one to finish) goes in the sense they decided to re-add one without thinking of the reason of the backlash. They had 2 years to think about it, and plan something to fill that void in the content, and seemingly chose not to (may they will announce somthing in the next live letter, but we'll see). Sure it takes time, but let's not pretend the complaints weren't there for the past 2 years.
    Maybe the cosmic exploration will fill that gap, but after the island sanctuary and cosmic exploration, I have my doubts. But I'd gladly be wrong.

    Also savage is a niche, from the few hints we have (lucky bancho numbers or things like that), it's around 30% of players in japan, and between 3 and 15% of the players in the west, depending of the server. Savage are important in the global , but trying to do like they were a content for everyone is just dishonnest.
    I can only speak myself in the US servers. I don't do savage and their focus on Savage so far is hurting players like me who want to have a reason to log in because they still enjoy the game. The savage raiders I know have done it and left for WoW. They focus on endgame content for people who leave as soon as finished and comeback only for the next tier. Sure, I know the arguement is they stay subbed or whatever. But they are leaving like 90% or more of the playerbase with nothing. Gradually week after week more of my friends and others I know are moving on to other games. If this is how its gonna be then it is only a matter of time before I stop caring about my in game house, unsub and uninstall if no one I know even plays the game anymore. But its ok. Keep feeding savage content to players that basically hateplay the game and leave ASAP.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    They are afraid of the QQ from the JP raiders who will throw a tantrum if they have ANYTHING else to do beside log in and raid. Quite pathetic really, on both sides.
    Normally I'd blame a certain disheveled-looking streamer for bringing those types to FFXIV, but I had no idea it was that bad on the Japanese side.
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  3. #13
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    Unfortunately, this has always been the case (not that I want to defend this strategy, cause I think its bonkers). The cracks start to show more and more though, especially now with a rising player count, as FFXIV runs on more and more platforms. Its insane that there is no content early on for non raiders to enjoy and pass the time to the next patch, which is often months away. Guess they either plan on people using this time to level all of their classes, and/or what TDawnstar has said -> they hope you just play a different SqEx game in the meantime.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

  4. #14
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    FFXIV has always had a pretty bad content drought problem, exacerbated this time for several reasons. There aren't any excellent characters for people to slobber over for 2 years, the current jobs are in a poor enough state to discourage pursuing higher level content, and the ongoing DC travel restrictions make it needlessly difficult for many people to do things they'd do with no problem before.

    Said this before, but the only real reason I'm still paying for a sub is because of my FC. I'm half tempted to convince some of them to play a different game with me...
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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Unfortunately, this has always been the case (not that I want to defend this strategy, cause I think its bonkers). The cracks start to show more and more though, especially now with a rising player count, as FFXIV runs on more and more platforms. Its insane that there is no content early on for non raiders to enjoy and pass the time to the next patch, which is often months away. Guess they either plan on people using this time to level all of their classes, and/or what TDawnstar has said -> they hope you just play a different SqEx game in the meantime.
    This time the MSQ is such a miserable, boring fail that it is even more obvious the lack of content. Savage raiders got their raids. From normal raid perspective they were fun. The rest of us got the bulk of expansion content, MSQ. Which was dreadful where tou had people in the first week in shout calling it Yawntrail and asking when something happens.

    So you have no story worth caring about for the next chapter, the expansion world not all that interesting to be invested in, no endgame content except savage, and if you want to do old content like say Deep Dungeons, their servers are DDoSd so often you'll DC in it and lose your no KO run. (Like I did in PotD). The game is not in a good spot. Whether or not it has always been like this is irrelevent because now, the story was so damn bad peoplei know are leaving, many did right after they completed MSQ because of how bad it was.

    They are going to bleed the casual/midcore playerbase if things continue the way they are and if next patch MSQ story also ends up being trash. It is upsetting because I still like the game but the game but it's struggling in all aspects right now for retention and enjoyable content.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumblecakes View Post
    But its ok. Keep feeding savage content to players that basically hateplay the game and leave ASAP.
    You can't explain this to YoshiP sadly, the excessive raiding has clouded his judgement.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    You can't explain this to YoshiP sadly, the excessive raiding has clouded his judgement.
    It's really sad because I started playing this game because I didn't want to high level raid anymore.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drimn View Post
    Normally I'd blame a certain disheveled-looking streamer for bringing those types to FFXIV, but I had no idea it was that bad on the Japanese side.
    We are talking actual death threats to developers (and I'm talking about SHB/EW times, not the DT release).
    Essentially, these people consider that if they only have X hours per week to play because of work and other obligations, then the others should do the same. Worse, they assume that these "others" should also be raiding savage and ulti.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumblecakes View Post
    It's really sad because I started playing this game because I didn't want to high level raid anymore.
    Same, my friend, same. And for the SHB times it was working so wonderfully. Right now though? All I can say is it makes me incredibly sad.
    What is worse however, is not the fact they aren't doing anything, it's the fact they are not even attempting to even change the formula, despite all the debt, both technical and game systems.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawnstar View Post
    We are talking actual death threats to developers (and I'm talking about SHB/EW times, not the DT release).
    Essentially, these people consider that if they only have X hours per week to play because of work and other obligations, then the others should do the same. Worse, they assume that these "others" should also be raiding savage and ulti.
    That is awful. I had no idea it was on that level.
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