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    Remove item level sync

    I've count and around 80% of my expert roulette in the past 2 weeks have been Alexandria only, even more so when I que as a tank. There has not been a single new player in any of them.

    So what is the point of this absolutely horrible sync? So we don't rush through the dungeon so u can enjoy "le story"? But there is not any relevant story during trash packs or bosses AND the dungeon already forces you to wait cuz of an arbitrary wall for the epic story their intern wrote while taking a dump.

    This is horrible design, it takes power away from the player and makes this farm content take even longer. And what is it even doing in EXPERT roulette then if it is supposed to be expert? Imagine if WoW started to item level sync u in m0 or lower m+ keys cuz uhh duhh reasons.

    Thanks for listening, fix this horrible mechanic thanks.
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    Story stuff like this is always synced. It always will be. This is the last dungeon of the baseline msq, people getting to it late should get to experience it the same way everyone else did. It's no fun to have this big cinematic experience (opinions may vary, but its still the lead up to the end of the story) and have to miss half the mechanics because the overgeared party kills everything in half the time.

    Just deal with it until 7.1, then a new dungeon will be added that wont be item level synced, and Alexandria will be rotated out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    Story stuff like this is always synced. It always will be. This is the last dungeon of the baseline msq, people getting to it late should get to experience it the same way everyone else did. It's no fun to have this big cinematic experience (opinions may vary, but its still the lead up to the end of the story) and have to miss half the mechanics because the overgeared party kills everything in half the time.

    Just deal with it until 7.1, then a new dungeon will be added that wont be item level synced, and Alexandria will be rotated out.
    But like I said, Alexandria doesn't really have anything going on during the trash packs or the bosses. It already forces you to watch the "cinematic experience" during those arbitrary walls when there is 0 trash. And if its called expert roulette then why is Alexandria there?

    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Honestly, I feel like item level sync needs to be stricter in all content, not more lax. This is a video game, the content should be fun to play, not just an obstacle you want to skip through to get what you want to achieve.
    Absolutely not. A big point of a MMO is progression and power is part of that. This is endgame content, it is literally called expert roulette and it is the highest dungeon content there is. What you essentially want to do is strip that progression or feeling of it away and make gear useless and pointless.

    And fun is subjective. Feeling like you are progressing and get more powerful may not be fun to you but it is fun to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    Absolutely not. A big point of a MMO is progression and power is part of that. This is endgame content, it is literally called expert roulette and it is the highest dungeon content there is. What you essentially want to do is strip that progression or feeling of it away and make gear useless and pointless.

    And fun is subjective. Feeling like you are progressing and get more powerful may not be fun to you but it is fun to others.
    there has to be a sweet spot for that though, cause while feeling powerful is part of an MMO, being to powerful comes at a detriment to the experience of a combat encounter (best examples are Nald'Thal and Glasya Labolas)

    Becoming powerful should mean you can push phases easier and earlier, as well as survive otherwise deadly mistakes, not turn every bit of content into an unsynched style cakewalk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    But like I said, Alexandria doesn't really have anything going on during the trash packs or the bosses. It already forces you to watch the "cinematic experience" during those arbitrary walls when there is 0 trash. And if its called expert roulette then why is Alexandria there?



    Absolutely not. A big point of a MMO is progression and power is part of that. This is endgame content, it is literally called expert roulette and it is the highest dungeon content there is. What you essentially want to do is strip that progression or feeling of it away and make gear useless and pointless.

    And fun is subjective. Feeling like you are progressing and get more powerful may not be fun to you but it is fun to others.
    Totally agree with ovIm they need to fix sync. We have 3 dungeons with some oomph and then countless others that are a snooze fest. What's worse is a lot of fun mechanics have been stripped out of the dungeons to make them even easier to fit the single player agenda (i.e freeze mobs in Snowcloak).

    As for getting to endgame that's a laugh in itself you have 4 raids(Glorified trials) and 2 extremes. Once you have the mounts and clears that's a days content and even if you haven't cleared its a handful of fights to spam over and over it's tedious.

    I'm also sick of saying to friends and new players "the game will get harder once you get to <insert recent expansion> just stick with it" For them to eventually quit because of how long it takes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post

    I'm also sick of saying to friends and new players "the game will get harder once you get to <insert recent expansion> just stick with it" For them to eventually quit because of how long it takes.

    This has been my experience trying to get people into FF14 aswell. It takes ages to get into any actual content unless you REALLY enjoy the story through all the expansions and same talk to X and fetch quests.

    Even WoW gives you a boost when u buy an expansion and timewalking exists...
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    Honestly, I feel like item level sync needs to be stricter in all content, not more lax. This is a video game, the content should be fun to play, not just an obstacle you want to skip through to get what you want to achieve.
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    It is fast, at least for me? Just need to do rotation+damage and then it's fast.

    Also, I wish the syncs would be tighter as well, especially on older content.
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    The solution here is to sync the other two, not remove the sync on Alexandria
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    No thanks.

    If I play through the content it's to enjoy and have fun with the content, not to skip it as fast as possible. Put hard syncs on every endgame piece of content please. Especially the story trials before EW, they're an absolute joke right now and that's exactly what you're trying to do with those dungeons.

    If you're not enjoying dungeons and roulettes, then don't queue for them. There is other venues to get tomes.
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