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  1. #1
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    If the scene happened before the ceremony then it makes no sense why he didn’t tell everyone the solution to their problem was ikihana, if it happened after the ikihana moot as it returns to being a stupid way for under qualified wuk Lamat to magically solve the problem

    Either way it leaves the storyline messy and pointless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Huh, the character in the screenshot literally knows about it. The effects just gradually declined over the years because they didnt maintain the boat properly. It all came to a head when the storm devastated the village. The actual dumb move is this idiotic rite of succession coming from a ruler whose only qualities lie in fighting and conquest, not in actually ruling. Gulool Ja Ja isnt even a good father. Most problems boil down to him rather spending his time looking for sparring partners than adressing the problems his nation or his family was facing. Which makes him an interesting character imo and probably the kharmic reason why he had to die in the story.
    I would also say that the way we found the solution was idiotic too. Wuk Lamat just wanted to see the parade and that just so happened to be the solution. It's just dumb and lazy.
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    Chill out.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by honest_psycho View Post
    It's been almost three months, there has been hundreds of threads, negative reviews andhours and hours of essays analysing every possible detail of Dawntrails writing and its myriad of problems.

    And I think it's safe to say that the Story this time was an absolute abject failure that warrants serious consquences.

    For a game that advertised itself as the "Story-MMO", the story this time around did some serious damage to the game's reputation.

    Who will look for an MMO, see the good reviews of Shadobringers and Endwalker and NOT be bewildered of the mixed to negative review of Dawntrail?
    I, for one, cannot recommend this game to anyone, despite the free trial and the quality up until Endwalkers MSQ, when the future looks like THIS.

    So what consequences should this have?

    While I'd prefer an actual 100% re-write of the MSQ, with a year long stop on development and free gametime like with 1.0 and ARR, I know this is not feasable.
    So I will focus on the things that can and SHOULD be done, to prevent a desaster like this from happening again.

    1. Let Yoshi-P focus on FF14 exclusivley.
    When I heard that Yoshi-P would ALSO be the director of FF16, I was worried if the quality of FF14 would suffer for it, and unfortunately I was right to worry.
    The lack of oversight this story had is obvious to everyone.

    Don't waste Yoshi-P's time on side-rpojects that get "underperforming sales".

    2. The current writers need to be replaced or outright fired.
    For the sake of brevity, I will refer to all the threads in this forum, who already did the work to point out the many problems/plotholes/basic logic etc. this story had, with Wuk Lamat taking the top position as a textbook case of a 'Mary Sue'.

    It is clear that the current writers don't have the skill or talent required for this game and need to be replaced or even outright fired.

    I refuse to believe that Ichikawa and Yoshi-P gave their ok out of their own volition.

    3. The MSQ needs to be heavily re-written and edited to fix the most blatant mistakes and problems (I don't care if this happens at a later point or within a year long break).
    Also, some more solo-duties like a playable trainride should be seriously considered.

    There are other things I'd like to see, like an actual public apology from Squares management, saying that they will take responsibility (Nintendo'S CEO took a paycut cause the Wii U underperformed, so this has already happened).
    But I will hold on for now.

    Closing words:
    I'm aware that I'm demanding a lot of things but after playing this game for over 3 years and the game itself being over 10 years old, we should expect for a product that at least WORKS.

    The main product is the story and needs all the quality it gets to set it appart from the competition.
    I love the game too much to let it go down in flames.
    Would you like to speak to the manager?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Would you like to speak to the manager?
    Unironically yes.
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    WUK LAMAT DELENDA EST

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    The only insanity here is that the story was allowed to ship in this state.
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    WUK LAMAT DELENDA EST

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