QoL Request: Small Improvement to movement with Standard Controls

[Rebeccubus]

Currently when you press an attack on Standard your character turns to face the enemy, and unless you're holding right click and moving your camera slightly to re-adjust their facing, they will continue moving relative to the enemy which can mess you up when you don't want to be running at them. I believe this happens because currently your character's facing only changes when you MOVE your camera with right click. They don't readjust if you're just holding the button.

So I'd like to request an option to make it so that as long as I'm holding right click, my character will continue facing forward relative to the camera. If I do an attack, they use it then continue facing via camera. That way I can use an attack while my character is moving and not have to worry about moving the wrong direction, just like moving and attacking with Legacy controls.

Using Legacy controls, every time you press a button you can see the character do a quick turn to the enemy to LoS for their attack then they immediately continue in the direction you're facing. That makes me feel like it would be very possible to implement, and I personally would really appreciate an option to have Standard do the same thing while holding Right Click.

[Arohk]

"In before someone say you can turn this off, regardless of the fact that this makes you unable to attack enemies not directly in front of your character"


Anyway, yes, you are totaly correct, and i am saying this for a long time, it is especialy a problem when you fight bosses with narrow paths, like P10 for example, your character turning to the boss and running off the bridge because of this is extremely terrible.

[Rebeccubus]

Yes I knew someone that specifically had their group yell at them to change controls due to exactly P10. They accidentally walked off the bridge one time and got a ton of shit for it. If they just implemented this small fix we'd be so much happier. I personally vastly prefer Standard controls and have done plenty of content with it in spite of some of the clunkiness, but I'd really appreciate if they'd see this and implement it. Though I can't imagine they're going to see this lol

[Rongway]

I'm convinced that the biggest reason people don't like Legacy is because some of the keys are flipped compared to Standard. If you switch to Legacy but change the offending keybinds, the controls work just like Standard except your camera doesn't continually snap whenever you move.

Keys bound to Move Left / Move Right in Standard: bind those keys to Point Camera to the Left / Point Camera to the Right in Legacy.
Keys bound to Strafe Left / Strafe Right in Standard: bind those keys to Move Left / Move Right in Legacy. Leave Strafe unbound.

In Legacy movement settings: Disable camera pivot.


This will give you "Standard, but the camera doesn't snap to character every time you move." It does however, disable turning in place--which is a separate problem which really should be solved by the devs making right click turn in place even when on Legacy.

[Rebeccubus]

I'm convinced that the biggest reason people don't like Legacy is because some of the keys are flipped compared to Standard. If you switch to Legacy but change the offending keybinds, the controls work just like Standard except your camera doesn't continually snap whenever you move.

Keys bound to Move Left / Move Right in Standard: bind those keys to Point Camera to the Left / Point Camera to the Right in Legacy.
Keys bound to Strafe Left / Strafe Right in Standard: bind those keys to Move Left / Move Right in Legacy. Leave Strafe unbound.

In Legacy movement settings: Disable camera pivot.


This will give you "Standard, but the camera doesn't snap to character every time you move." It does however, disable turning in place--which is a separate problem which really should be solved by the devs making right click turn in place even when on Legacy.

You can disable the camera snapping when you move on standard. It's in camera controls. Frankly I think it should default to off.

I just prefer the way standard feels because I prefer the character-based movement. I like being able to move my character and camera independently of each other in the sense of like left being my character's left regardless of where my camera is facing. It just feels more natural to me personally. I also enjoy being able to easily backpedal which I use for minor positioning changes (and also the jump puzzles for small jumps without having to toggle walk) and also turning my character with just right click and not requiring the holding left+right+S or moving my character slightly.

I think everyone has their preferences but I also think the devs fumbled standard controls a bit and made it seem less intuitive than it's capable of being.

[Arohk]

They should also add a keybind to toggle between standard and legacy easily, i can and have done raid bosses with Legacy controly (mainly because of P10 savage to not fall off the bridge and platform due to janky controls)
But i am just too lazy to go into the menu and switch back and forth all the time.