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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    instead of some ugly armor pieces no one wants to wear
    As the other responder said, it's subjective. I wish you would frame your post in that way, rather than trying to state your opinion as fact. I quite like most of the raid pieces, personally. I actually don't really like the ones that you posted pictures of. You don't want to look like a "stupid parrot", but everyone else should be expected to want to look like a "stupid bee"? In my experience there were a lot of people who wanted the "parrot" armor when it was only on Tuliyollal NPCs. I was happy when it was released as tome hear.

    There's nothing wrong with voicing an opinion on what you would like to see, but yours is not the only one that matters. Gear visuals are never going to please everyone all the time, because there is a wide range of what people enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    As the other responder said, it's subjective.
    Good design is not subjective, watch here:

    https://youtu.be/mVyXUMJLzE0?si=2bUA7Q3iwCW9sJEf

    I think most Armor in this game suffer from "overdesign" , there is too much crap attached to the armor pieces that creates a visual clutter.

    My Point is perfectly valid, just look around in the game what glamour people use.
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    Last edited by Arohk; 09-19-2024 at 01:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Good design is not subjective, watch here:

    https://youtu.be/mVyXUMJLzE0?si=2bUA7Q3iwCW9sJEf

    I think most Armor in this game suffer from "overdesign" , there is too much crap attached to the armor pieces that creates a visual clutter.

    My Point is perfectly valid, just look around in the game what glamour people use.
    Neither mine, nor anyone else's claim was that "design" is subjective. The claim was that "taste" is subjective. Those are not the same... Let's look at the same thing with a different sense: There are numerous examples of songs produced in the last couple decades that are bad. They have low-effort, low skill, and poorly executed compositions. They are objectively bad music. Despite this, there are numerous people who love these bad songs. Why? Because despite their design and composition being objectively bad, they fit the taste of the listeners that enjoy them. Taste is 100% subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banggugyangu View Post
    Neither mine, nor anyone else's claim was that "design" is subjective. The claim was that "taste" is subjective. Those are not the same... Let's look at the same thing with a different sense: There are numerous examples of songs produced in the last couple decades that are bad. They have low-effort, low skill, and poorly executed compositions. They are objectively bad music. Despite this, there are numerous people who love these bad songs. Why? Because despite their design and composition being objectively bad, they fit the taste of the listeners that enjoy them. Taste is 100% subjective.
    But should the devs aim to cater to those with bad taste and like garbage? Or should they use their talent and make something that looks good.
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    Who's to say that the devs that designed the pieces you dislike don't actually like those pieces themselves? If I'm designing armor for a game, I'm not going to design something that I think looks bad. I'm going to design something I like. You'd be hard pressed to convince me that the devs of FFXIV are any different.
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    That sums up my point of view. I'm fine with seeing gear I dislike on people because if they like it, what does my opinion matter?
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    I mean to be fair the raid gear matches the theme....wrestling...i dont agree with how it looks but it gets its point across as well as tome gear. I rarely ever like tome gear so not a real miss for me.
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    I don't want all, or even most, of the gear we receive to appeal to me. And that's because my tastes are not everyone's tastes, so to cater to me to such an extent would mean that others' desires were being disproportionately neglected.

    I love it when I see people wearing outfits I would absolutely never want to wear, because that lets them show off their personality, and I get to see that. Whether I think they look like a clown or whether they're making it work, that makes the world of FF14 a more diverse and thus interesting place to spend time.

    Though honestly, I think so much of the gear in this game is great; the only reason I wear so few pieces is because the Glamour system is limited to a meager 20 outfits. If they had 200 slots, I'd probably have 200 different outfits saved, and I'd be even more desperate for more Glamour Dresser space than I am now.
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    I do find the current raid and tome gear pretty ugly, but as others have said, taste is subjective.

    My biggest issue though is that the raid gear really isn't representative of the raid at all. Nobody in the raid wears that style of gear, it doesn't fit the futuristic aesthetic of solution 9 and the Arcadion, it feels like gear the developers had cooked up for something else and threw in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiren View Post
    I do find the current raid and tome gear pretty ugly, but as others have said, taste is subjective.

    My biggest issue though is that the raid gear really isn't representative of the raid at all. Nobody in the raid wears that style of gear, it doesn't fit the futuristic aesthetic of solution 9 and the Arcadion, it feels like gear the developers had cooked up for something else and threw in there.
    Oh exactly. I get that the theme they wanted is for you to be a MMA Fighter, because it kind of makes sense in theory, but not aesthetically. I'd rather have the gear themed after the bosses themselves: Scouting/Striking = Black Cat, Aiming = Bee, Fending/Maiming = Bomber, Caster/Healer = Wicked Thunder. But I guess that's a lot of designs to ask for.
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