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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Naive

    tons of comp savy people got hit with Iframe attacks when XI wiki and AH had been compromised with infected adds. It is not always the end users fault unless you live in a sterile net bubble you are at risk even withiut it really being a fault on your end.
    My RJ's all have rubbers....cant have em spreading diseases now can i?

    in all seriousness i do applaud myself for building my own router, its easy to set up, you can use a hardened Kernel if your feeling paranoid, its got tons of Hardwall Measures, and it sports a latency decrease of about 20ms. don't dis the net bubble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    ...they stated they're not even making a profit on these tokens, so it's not a money grab,...
    Right, and that's the reason why they cost $10 instead of the 1-2 it costs to create them?
    SE is a company. I'd never believe them just because they say "hey, we dont want to make money with it".

    It requires less effort to change my password once a week than to type in a newly generated one every single time I want to log in anyways..

    Like others suggested - recycle 2 passwords. It's annoying but there's nothing you can do about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Get a security token.
    Actually I have a security token, and this has happened to me despite what the site clearly says. A token won't necessarily stop it, but it might occur less often, I don't really know what the deal is.

    OP, maybe you can talk to customer support and see if they can't flag your account to stop it from happening or something. I don't think this feature should go away because it offers at least one more layer of account protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Right, and that's the reason why they cost $10 instead of the 1-2 it costs to create them?
    SE is a company. I'd never believe them just because they say "hey, we dont want to make money with it".

    It requires less effort to change my password once a week than to type in a newly generated one every single time I want to log in anyways..

    Like others suggested - recycle 2 passwords. It's annoying but there's nothing you can do about it.
    They don't make them, Vasco makes them. Nobody who uses these things makes profit off of them. If you don't want to pay $7-10 to be 100% secure and skip the hassle of their free security measures then by all means!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigercub View Post
    Actually I have a security token, and this has happened to me despite what the site clearly says. A token won't necessarily stop it.

    OP, maybe you can talk to customer support and see if they can't flag your account to stop it from happening or something. I don't think this feature should go away because it offers at least one more layer of account protection.
    The token stops it unless you are in a different country or something, but even then I logged in from two different states and had no issues with the token.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Security tokens are only for people who don't have much knowledge of computers. It's practically impossible to get hacked unless you are naive enough to download a trojan or keyloger onto your computer. Don't waste your money on a token unless you don't know better about such things.
    That is silly...and careless. Multi-factor authentication is a proven method of security. Its just the opposite - people who DO know alot about computers, insist on at least two-factor auth to protect their accounts and data. Maybe you haven't been reading the computer news at all recently but most of all the major 'hacks' have been compromises of millions of companies user/pass data. Multi-factor auth would render that data useless.

    Don't take it from me, Steve Gibson has plenty to say on the subject: http://twit.tv/sn90
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    Last edited by Quesse; 08-05-2012 at 09:27 PM.

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    FFXI players can get accounts hacked from xbox360 and ps2 as well.. so how is that the users fault for downloading what now?

    1 token has lasted me about 5 yrs now and still going, 9.99 for 5 yrs is nothing. To not buy out of spite is your own problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norack View Post
    o.0 don't make me go upstairs and punch my fat pug in the face, it will be all your fault!
    Just because a dog may get hurt, I'll be nice. >.>

    (I'm a dog lover, what can I say?)

    And I really need to get a security token. *goes to look on Amazon and prepares to bookmark it*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpse View Post
    Thanks for the replies guys. This has got to be a genius way to make money for SE or something. I'm not going to waste $10 for a security token just because I'm annoyed by their "security" feature. There are better ways to implement this than doing it the way they did it. Oh well, I'll just rotate passwords.
    Actually my job uses a security token because we take a lot of credit card information and suffice it to say the token is tied to my log in information.. no one is taking my information creating false tickets to get me fired from my job... think of it that way instead of wasting money because they're trying to keep out hackers from your account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Happens to me too, It's irritating but at the same time I'm glad they have it just in case. Security tokens are only for people who don't have much knowledge of computers. It's practically impossible to get hacked unless you are naive enough to download a trojan or keyloger onto your computer. Don't waste your money on a token unless you don't know better about such things.
    I cannot stress enough how wrong this statement is. The idea of a security "token" is that it adds a new layer of security to your account. Passwords are easy to guess, a generated token is nearly impossible to guess because it changes every thirty or so seconds. In all honesty, people who want a secure account SHOULD have a token. On the net today, only having a password doesn't cut it.

    Please be careful when you post statements like that. Someone might read what you posted and honestly believe it.

    As for the OP's situation, I would seriously recommend a security token as others have suggested. Not only will it solve your differing IP problems, but it will also protect you from dangers in your ever changing place of play. It may seem extreme, but if you're using a public network, especially Wifi, who knows who is listening.
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