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    General Voting System Abuse

    Please rework the voting system to remove someone from the dungeon, people have abused it to kick me out of the party when I started the game and it happens at times even now when I am a mentor. People shouldnt have the right to abuse a system like this to begin with, it barely only works when there are no premade groups of 3 or even 2.

    I dont want to hear of the bandaid, sidetask of reporting them through the report system, that is a temporary option that does not fix the problem in the long term.

    Edit: Do note that this problem is most pervasive and accentuated in normal 4 man duties.

    Second Edit: To give further context, I just do dungeons and still have this issue. I play with no group chat function, I am not obliged in any form to interact with this community beyond my set limits, and to just be kicked before the last boss is nothing short of discriminatory behavior for not adhering to whatever BS reason the other person had. The current system promotes a toxic behavior that should be addressed.
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    Last edited by Rvbbit; 09-15-2024 at 08:42 PM.

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    What do you actually want them to do

    Square has said time and time again that difference in playstyle is a valid reason to kick, all you need is the majority
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    I can count the times people have been kicked out of a dungeon with one hand so you probably deserved it and it needs no reworking.
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    Not true. Not allowed to coerce anyone to play in a way that they dont want to, please read the ToS and dont bother posting in this thread ever again.

    I deserve getting kicked from the dungeon for simply doing the dungeon, genius comment. Why are useless randoms even allowed to comment on a game technical issue to begin with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rvbbit View Post
    Not true. Not allowed to coerce anyone to play in a way that they dont want to, please read the ToS and dont bother posting in this thread ever again.
    They can’t coerce you to play how they want but if they don’t like the way you are playing they can kick you, square has been very very clear on this



    Here is evidence from a GM
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rvbbit View Post
    Not true. Not allowed to coerce anyone to play in a way that they dont want to, please read the ToS and dont bother posting in this thread ever again.

    I deserve getting kicked from the dungeon for simply doing the dungeon, genius comment. Why are useless randoms even allowed to comment on a game technical issue to begin with?
    I'm sure u were just "doing the dungeon". Believable story.
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    "Expressions that unilaterally reject another person's opinion" and "Expressions that compel a playing style";

    Attacking someone for doing something different from what you or others may feel is the norm;

    You cannot force someone to play a certain way without the consent of both parties. If such a situation does arise, it could be determined to be giving excessive criticism against that player."

    I therefore do not care about you or your screenshot. I will only answer in further posts to someone that is.. more official and desirable to talk to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    They can’t coerce you to play how they want but if they don’t like the way you are playing they can kick you, square has been very very clear on this



    Here is evidence from a GM
    I am sure that you are vote kick abuser that doesnt want to have his toy taken away.
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    Hold the loot So you can't get kicked?
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    I don't think in my entire time of playing the game I've seen someone get kicked for any reason other than going AFK or offline.

    I've seen entire statics and PFs disband before kicking people, and kicking in Full Party roulettes is unheard of.

    Without knowing what happened, I'm erring against you. Sorry.
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    Last edited by NegativeS; 09-16-2024 at 12:07 PM.


    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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