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    But... they didn't add a finisher?

    Or do you mean that every second time you don't have to do the two dance steps for Standard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    But... they didn't add a finisher?

    Or do you mean that every second time you don't have to do the two dance steps for Standard?
    I’m assuming they are referring to dance of the dawn and last dance, not finishing move (though I have my own problems with finishing move since it reduces the amount of dancing dancer does)

    With dance of the dawn and last dance DNC’s burst window is now super rigid and while DNC still gets a large portion of its rDPS from dance partner and technical a lot of the changes in DT did definitely feel like they were designed around buffing its pDPS rather than giving it more support options
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    But... they didn't add a finisher?

    Or do you mean that every second time you don't have to do the two dance steps for Standard?
    "Dance of the Dawn" "Finishing Move" "Last Dance"

    all of them are finishers that has been interduce in DT,

    Why can't we have non finishers that maybe more buffs more party oriented, party utility.

    Finishers do not fit the gameplay of Dancer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    "Dance of the Dawn" "Finishing Move" "Last Dance"

    all of them are finishers that has been interduce in DT,

    Why can't we have non finishers that maybe more buffs more party oriented, party utility.

    Finishers do not fit the gameplay of Dancer
    In practice, only Last Dance is the "new finisher toy".

    Finishing Move, despite what the name suggests, it's not a finisher among that list, it's just a "glorified" effect from Flourish to shortcut the next SS. DotD feels like a finisher too, but it is just another Saber Dance but stronger. In fact if it didn't exist, its place would still be there as yet another Saber Dance in the priority list during TS.

    But I agree that LD, as a finisher, do feel a bit displaced in the kit, and that's already coming from Tilapia in Endwalker working like a finisher itself.

    I thought back then that DNC didn't have anywhere to grow inside the Technical window, and I was right. In practice the advent of Last Dance into the burst and the obligation to use the instant Standard Step as FM there pushed other stuff out of, which honestly feels bad. Before the DNC had to deal with a surplus of feathers coining in, which was great reactive play, but now the challenge is praying to RNG gods to not overcap on Esprit midway your global.
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