Give healers dps

[AnnRam]

I want something like this:


I don't want garbage like this:


Enuff said.

Sadly our player base cried for years about removing clearing stance / dots because "anxiety issues"

Now Healers are OK but gets boring quick when the group doesn't get hit and you are stuck with dmg+dot.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Sadly our player base cried for years about removing clearing stance / dots because "anxiety issues"

Now Healers are OK but gets boring quick when the group doesn't get hit and you are stuck with dmg+dot.

People seem to forget that some players vary in ability and for content to be created it needs to generally be engaged by a large portion of the population of game - its the reason we only get a small amount of ultimates because the reality is a large swath of the player base never touch it..

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Sadly our player base cried for years about removing clearing stance / dots because "anxiety issues"

Now Healers are OK but gets boring quick when the group doesn't get hit and you are stuck with dmg+dot.

Funnily enough in those illustrations, the cleric stance and DoT buttons are not the entire picture either.

Look at how much Adlo, Succor, Physick (lol) used there. See how much buttons are congealed to one single button press. Again, even worse, this is the case for 4 jobs within a single role.

If that’s not a mix of laziness, cutting corner, or incompetence from the Creatively Bankrupt Unit 3, Idk what that is.

[Havenchild]

Would it hurt anyone? Would it break th3 game? No. As a drk main and non healer player I welcome it. Square doesn't seem to realize or care how big the cracks are in this game from a dogshit ass story to completely stupid af job design that could be patched in a week....it's infuriating to your player base and we are f. Tired of this. I started in sb in 2018 and I've heard healers crying about the same things since. What's the hold up? Give em dps and then we can move on. Fix drk and we can move on. Like this is bullshit waiting for patch 9.xx to get shit like increased emnity. Tell me you don't care about your players without telling me you don't care about your players

It would hurt the raiding healer population in PF and directly contribute to further shortage as the expectancy to contribute increases as does the role responsibility. Saying the situation can be resolved in a week (lol), proves you have no understanding of game balance or how all these variables interchange in all the separate environments.

[Sensui]

People seem to forget that some players vary in ability and for content to be created it needs to generally be engaged by a large portion of the population of game - its the reason we only get a small amount of ultimates because the reality is a large swath of the player base never touch it..

Largely in my experience, if you don't "have the thing" you don't get invited to the table. So, I gave up that dream.

[Hyperia]

I want to heal as a HEALER, more dps would be nice to but i want to HEAL.

As a career healer in mmos since EverQuest, I want to heal, not dps.

I love my WHM since 2.0 but maybe I should try out this new, up and coming raid healer job called WAR, I hear it’s really good.

[hynaku]

They could remove half the healing spells and add dps skills instead.

[Zakuyia]

You know when healers had cleric stance and more dps tools the community cried and complained it was too hard to do both.....funny how the consequences and sins of our fathers work. Moral of the story. Gamers really don't know what they want, they think they want it,but they really don't.

[IDontPetLalas]

You know when healers had cleric stance and more dps tools the community cried and complained it was too hard to do both.....funny how the consequences and sins of our fathers work. Moral of the story. Gamers really don't know what they want, they think they want it,but they really don't.

Funny, I didn't cry and complain. Neither did other healers that I happened to know. I do agree that some did, however saying that it was "the community"? That's misleading in my view, and what was delivered didn't match what I would have wanted - we did complain when we lost a good number of our skills on our main healer at the time (SCH)- but didn't get much of a reaction at that time. Not until, that it- other jobs started getting simplified.

And putting up that trite "Gamers really don't know what they want, they think they want it,but they really don't" is a rather condescending view. Customers may or may not know how to tell game designers exactly what they want, but they often know what they like or what they don't like . Whomever designs the game is supposed to figure out the the solution, it's part of their job. It's also part of their job to find out how their product best matches whatever their "customer" wants/likes/needs.

We have often communicated what we want, what we like or don't like about healer design. We don't even have to agree amongst ourselves- although of course that would simplify things. What isn't clear - at least for me- is the healer that Square designs for, whether they have aver heard any of this feedback, and what the future is going forwards.

[Jeeqbit]

Funny, I didn't cry and complain. Neither did other healers that I happened to know. I do agree that some did, however saying that it was "the community"? That's misleading in my view, and what was delivered didn't match what I would have wanted

I agree. The moment I picked up Conjurer (so I could unlock PLD) and got Cleric Stance, I started using it and had no problems. I think there were people who found it difficult and annoying, but it certainly wasn't everyone. But the developers just decided to go in the direction of caution and reducing stress regardless.

What isn't clear - at least for me- is the healer that Square designs for

It's pretty obvious who they design for. They design for a healer that has barely played the game and barely understands it.

This is why they replaced their healer who tested content with a more casual healer, because they'd "become too good" which can only mean they were spamming their attack instead of healing, since that's what confident healers do.

They say that if staff are too good at content they try to let their staff who don't or barely play the game to try it, such as from production and marketing departments and if they struggle with it then they make it easier.

They've said a lot recently about how they are trying to "reduce stress" in numerous statements and interviews and how that has been their long-term goal. Stress hasn't been the focus of those statements, but if you read carefully you'll see they've used it quite a lot of late to communicate their mindset.

whether they have aver heard any of this feedback, and what the future is going forwards.

Actually they have heard this feedback. This is from the job guide:
"To increase attack variation, we have also added Glare IV, which can be executed up to three times after using Presence of Mind."
"To increase attack variation, we have added Baneful Impaction, which can be executed after using Chain Strategem"
"to increase attack variation, a new offensive ability has been added which can be executed after using Divination."
"To increase attack variation during periods when healing isn't required, new actions such as Eukrasian Dyskrasia and Psyche have been added."