How to fix the healer problem.

[BunnyQueen]

I said this time and time again. So I am making a post about it. Increase tank health, reduce mits and sustain, make mob damage high and sustained with some burst while keeping it at a level that won't strain healers but keep them engaged. Boom problem solved.

Putting this here then not gonna bother replying because a bunch of tanks will start crying at these suggestions.

[sindriiisgaming]

play the jobs you enjoy, dont play the ones you dont enjoy, if you are not happy with a lack of healers, be the healer. do not ask others to play a job for you and do not sneer at others who still enjoy the job.

[BunnyQueen]

play the jobs you enjoy, dont play the ones you dont enjoy, if you are not happy with a lack of healers, be the healer. do not ask others to play a job for you and do not sneer at others who still enjoy the job.

The ones who enjoy it? You mean the tiny as fuck amount of healers that are left? ROFLMAO! Also it is spelled Don't. I enjoy healing which is why I mostly play other games. I only play this poorly balanced game for my wife. Started as a healer, ended up going warrior. Don't make excuses for poor balancing.

The most fun I had in this game was when I got to heal. Pre-Stormblood MSQ. That died the more I got into Stormblood. Bad Balancing is bad.

[Jojoya]

While tank design is a large part of the problem, I don't agree that they need their HP increased or self mitigation reduced. It's the healing that needs to be removed from their job design. Their current mitigation alone wouldn't save them except in short fights. HP attrition would lead to their death after a couple of minutes. Currently they can survive near indefinitely without a healer because of the generous amount of self-healing they can do.

It's the self healing that needs to go. That at least would give healers more healing to do since SE seems to be too scared to increase party-wide damage.

Take the extra step to add in more party wide damage as well and healers would be that much happier. As you say it doesn't need to be a huge amount that would make healers feel pressured but there needs to be more for healers to heal than the current DPS mistakes and infrequent party wide tickles. Making the damage received from mechanics more impactful would also force DPS to take the mechanics more seriously instead of just standing in them because "healer's got me covered once I hit 4 vuln stacks".

play the jobs you enjoy, dont play the ones you dont enjoy, if you are not happy with a lack of healers, be the healer. do not ask others to play a job for you and do not sneer at others who still enjoy the job.

I enjoy healing so I play healer.

That doesn't mean I don't feel there are some pretty obvious problems with how healers fit into the game's battle design and wish SE would address them.

I may not agree with most of what the OP has suggested as being the solution but I'm not going to make snarky assumptions about them like you did.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

While tank design is a large part of the problem, I don't agree that they need their HP increased or self mitigation reduced. It's the healing that needs to be removed from their job design. Their current mitigation alone wouldn't save them except in short fights. HP attrition would lead to their death after a couple of minutes. Currently they can survive near indefinitely without a healer because of the generous amount of self-healing they can do.

It's the self healing that needs to go. That at least would give healers more healing to do since SE seems to be too scared to increase party-wide damage.

Take the extra step to add in more party wide damage as well and healers would be that much happier. As you say it doesn't need to be a huge amount that would make healers feel pressured but there needs to be more for healers to heal than the current DPS mistakes and infrequent party wide tickles. Making the damage received from mechanics more impactful would also force DPS to take the mechanics more seriously instead of just standing in them because "healer's got me covered once I hit 4 vuln stacks".


I enjoy healing so I play healer.

That doesn't mean I don't feel there are some pretty obvious problems with how healers fit into the game's battle design and wish SE would address them.

I may not agree with most of what the OP has suggested as being the solution but I'm not going to make snarky assumptions about them like you did.

Honestly? I'd probably reduce healer dmg so that its not a factor in savage encounters while increasing the healing burden on healers but honestly in fights like m3s I still feel healers are struggling sometimes. The problem that often is the case is "what about when they are alone?" If you reduce healer damage then fights take far to long when doing things such as fate grinding. If you reduce tank healing then fights become a simple matter of attrition as they peel down their enemy with reduced damage and hope the enemy runs out of HP before them. Sometimes I feel like SE should just come out and say "These jobs are intended for group content - solo at your own risk" but I feel that will never fly.

[Tunda]

Things are not that complicated.. Healers issue is Homonization and current tanks design

[Sensui]

Other games barely use healers. Ever play ESO? Try doing anything as a healer outside of the highest tier stuff. I could duo veteran content and some cases the hard mode version. If it bothers you that much don't be a healer or don't play the game...

[RinaB]

Bunny queen is just as pissed as I am. We pay a sub for this shit and deserve quality control. Worste case the devs make healers into black mages, who cares,? We need functionality not this class identity bullshit. Identity doesn't mean I can clear content comfortably.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

It's funny, this argument. You pay for a sub, you complain that there's nothing to heal, there's no class identity, and whatever. And, just like OP, neither of you engage in the content where healing matters or is required.

Normal raids don't have any real healing outside of specific checks, Kardia alone can sustain tanks through normal content. Extremes have spike damage that you can oGCD through with proper resource management (not that you do them, either). And let's not talk about the trivially easy content that is dungeons.

You pay for the sub, but ignore the content that gives the role all that "actual healing" you all complain about so much. You're not getting what you're paying for because you actively don't do the content that requires planned GCD and oGCD healing, mitigations, and resource management. Funny how that is, huh? You're both pissed that you actively avoid the content that scratches that itch.

And don't come at me with "Normal content should have more healing!" We already have people complaining that they can't get through MSQ quest content by themselves. Square isn't going to up requirements because the VAST majority of this playerbase will not be able to meet them.

That’s a lot of words just to say “Go play Ultimate” lmao.