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[Jojoya]

A small group of players? No. That's just a blatant lie, and I am not going to argue with you about it.

It is not a lie. It is limited to some of the players who play Viera and Hrothgar.

What was the point of pushing the developers to add a race to the game that has unique head features if all you wanted to do was turn around and hide those features under headgear?

Have a little pride in the choice you made and show those features off instead.

[Nebelheim]

It is not a lie. It is limited to some of the players who play Viera and Hrothgar.

What was the point of pushing the developers to add a race to the game that has unique head features if all you wanted to do was turn around and hide those features under headgear?

Have a little pride in the choice you made and show those features off instead.

Viera and hrothgar are a feature of a game and they shouldn't be as limited as they are considering both races are considered to be full features of the game. Why should us hrothgar and viera players go without hats and not be able to use every hairstyle that's in the game. I don't get why people come up with so much excuses of why hrothgar and viera are so limited and think they should remain limited because supposedly "only a small portion of the players play those races" So we apparently don't have pride in playing the race we choose because we want more character customization and to have as much features as the other races. I don't see having lack of features the other races have as a benefit to players or wanting more hats and hairstyles as lacking pride.

[ronibosch]

It is not a lie. It is limited to some of the players who play Viera and Hrothgar.

What was the point of pushing the developers to add a race to the game that has unique head features if all you wanted to do was turn around and hide those features under headgear?

Have a little pride in the choice you made and show those features off instead.

The developers aren't being pushed to do anything they don't want to. I don't understand this argument that makes it seem like the customers are being selfish and overbearing for wanting two prominent races to have headgear. I'm sorry, but if I'm paying a monthly fee for a game I genuinely care about, I'm going to make a ruckus about something that affects me as a Viera/Hroth player.

(By the way, Hrothgar was Yoshi P's idea. He wanted a playable beast race. It was Viera that were asked for by the playerbase.) Thanks for the correction, LittleArrow!

Also, what do you have to say for the cash shop outfits that have headgear that doesn't appear on Viera and Hrothgar? Even if you want to make excuses for the devs, wouldn't you agree that paying additional real-life money for an incomplete outfit is absolutely ridiculous? I shouldn't have to use a Fantasia to have access to headgear I paid for.

[LittleArrow]

(By the way, Hrothgar was Yoshi P's idea. He wanted a playable beast race. It was Viera that were asked for by the playerbase.)

To go even deeper, this isn't the case either. Back in 1.x when Yoshi took over he sent us 1.x players a survey on the races WE wanted prioritized by the dev team. Of course the first set was to complete the missing genders which he commented on being a priority for him as well. The second highest voted race was Lupine, which he commented he knew he skewed b/c he put the example of Fran - we have been asking for Vieras for over 10yrs. He's known we've wanted Viera since 1.x in the style of Fran.

ANYONE arguing that this is too much for the dev team or we're asking too much has NO idea about the history of this game or the goals YOSHI HIMSELF SET FOR HIS TEAM AND EXPECTATIONS HE SET FOR US THE PLAYERS. The other top contenders were a beastial race and third was mixed races (half elezen half hyur etc). The results of added races is completely exemplified in the first races they added; Au'ra (this was supposed to be the beast race, but the dev team admitted in a fanfest I believe that the design got neutered and it didn't meet their expectation of 'beast' race - thus Hrothgar later) and Hilda's appearance (half elezen race).

[ronibosch]

To go even deeper, this isn't the case either. Back in 1.x when Yoshi took over he sent us 1.x players a survey on the race (STILL TYPING, ACCIDENTAL POST)

Oh, wow! So it goes even earlier than ShB. I need to look more into Yoshi P's 1.x days. The more you know!

[LittleArrow]

Oh, wow! So it goes even earlier than ShB. I need to look more into Yoshi P's 1.x days. The more you know!

Sorry I accidentally posted too early, here's the full history:

To go even deeper, this isn't the case either. Back in 1.x when Yoshi took over he sent us 1.x players a survey on the races WE wanted prioritized by the dev team. Of course the first set was to complete the missing genders which he commented on being a priority for him as well. The second highest voted race was Lupine, which he commented he knew he skewed b/c he put the example of Fran - we have been asking for Vieras for over 10yrs. He's known we've wanted Viera since 1.x in the style of Fran.

ANYONE arguing that this is too much for the dev team or we're asking too much has NO idea about the history of this game or the goals YOSHI HIMSELF SET FOR HIS TEAM AND EXPECTATIONS HE SET FOR US THE PLAYERS. The other top contenders were a beastial race and third was mixed races (half elezen half hyur etc). The results of added races is completely exemplified in the first races they added; Au'ra (this was supposed to be the beast race, but the dev team admitted in a fanfest I believe that the design got neutered and it didn't meet their expectation of 'beast' race - thus Hrothgar later) and Hilda's appearance (half elezen race).

[ronibosch]

Sorry I accidentally posted too early, here's the full history:

No problem. I appreciate it!

[Winterfang]

What was the point of pushing the developers to add a race to the game that has unique head features if all you wanted to do was turn around and hide those features under headgear?

Have a little pride in the choice you made and show those features off instead.

Wtf Is this Clark Kent scenerio garbage.
Putting on a Red Mages hat isn't going to make the group wonder where did our Kimba the Lion on Steriods dissappear to. In fact, there are already full head helmets that warp, if not outright cut, my head so it doesn't even resemble a beast. But Boy, I sure should be proud that the devs screwed my race so hard, it took them 3 YEARS to give me a basic cosmetic customization feature that every other race already had. Totally wasn't because they cut so many corners, it could be a circle.

[Loggos]

Wtf Is this Clark Kent scenerio garbage.
Putting on a Red Mages hat isn't going to make the group wonder where did our Kimba the Lion on Steriods dissappear to. In fact, there are already full head helmets that warp, if not outright cut, my head so it doesn't even resemble a beast. But Boy, I sure should be proud that the devs screwed my race so hard, it took them 3 YEARS to give me a basic cosmetic customization feature that every other race already had. Totally wasn't because they cut so many corners, it could be a circle.

Yeah, also it deprives viera and hrothgar players of iconic job-related head gear, precisely like a red mage or black mage hat (or really any other artefact head gear). What if you want to live your job fantasy and proudly show off that you are a red mage (or any other job), or even better, that you are a viera/hrothgar who is also a red mage (etc.)?
For example, by adding head gear that also shows our ears (like they do for some elezen or miqo head gear).
But even if head gear were to "cut off" our ears you'd still recognise we are viera/hrothgar... So this idea that we are not "proud" of our races and want to "hide" our features is silly because those races are clearly not just their ears, esp. hrothgars. (As for vieras, even without ears they still have very distinct features and poses.)

[Lazariah]

It is not a lie. It is limited to some of the players who play Viera and Hrothgar.

What was the point of pushing the developers to add a race to the game that has unique head features if all you wanted to do was turn around and hide those features under headgear?

Have a little pride in the choice you made and show those features off instead.

It is a lie and your argument is ridiculous, as many others have pointed out. Or do you have hard data on what you claim? I bet you don't. The onus is on you to prove it but you'd rather just spout nonsense to tick people off.