Greenlight NA and EU Travel

[Zofian]

No this is not safe. I am a million million percent against cross region travel, the threat to the (original British, and others) English language from overexposure to NA is one of the biggest global issues right now. The NA-OCE link should be severed and everyone made to play in their own actual region. Anyone looking to learn English as a second language etc is supposed to be learning British English, not NA's by mistake, which is a big and growing problem.

[TheDustyOne]

No this is not safe. I am a million million percent against cross region travel, the threat to the (original British, and others) English language from overexposure to NA is one of the biggest global issues right now. The NA-OCE link should be severed and everyone made to play in their own actual region. Anyone looking to learn English as a second language etc is supposed to be learning British English, not NA's by mistake, which is a big and growing problem.

Ah yes, I should be forced off of the NA server I've been on for 7 years, away from the friends I've made over that time because *checks notes* spelling colour without the U is a threat to the English language. I'm from New Zealand, have you heard how we say deck? The changes from British English to American English are hardly the worst things to happen to the language.

Anyway, I don't see a reason not to open the data centres up between NA and EU, I need help from the British to convince the yanks to spell colour with a U.

[Atreides]

No this is not safe. I am a million million percent against cross region travel, the threat to the (original British, and others) English language from overexposure to NA is one of the biggest global issues right now. The NA-OCE link should be severed and everyone made to play in their own actual region. Anyone looking to learn English as a second language etc is supposed to be learning British English, not NA's by mistake, which is a big and growing problem.

You just gave even more reason to open up the gates! Teach them the right way.

[CNitsah]

As someone who only play on european servers, when I see the number bullshit happening in american servers, being with player behavour and mentality, stupid drama (well we have our sheer, but it's still far from the US side), etc, please don't. In term of number they are more than us, I don't want them to impose their visions and way of doing things on us, we already have our share.

[Jeeqbit]

when I see the number bullshit happening in american servers, being with player behavour and mentality, stupid drama (well we have our sheer, but it's still far from the US side), etc, please don't. In term of number they are more than us, I don't want them to impose their visions

This isn't realistic.

Most people in NA will not travel to EU. Just those that actually want to (or already play alts in EU). Mostly, it's going to be EU players that have their main on an NA world and friends of EU players.

The minority of NA that actually go to EU will feel pressured to just learn how they do things and adopt the concept of macros.

As for dramas and behaviour? There is plenty of toxic behaviour on the EU side. I would actually say there is far more toxicity in the EU region. Just doing a few roulettes rarely on my EU alt I see toxicity in an average dungeon run - I never see this, ever, in NA.

[NoonDawn]

broo I already play on NA as an EU resident bc the majority of my friends who play FFXIV are from NA, I'm already living the 150ms raiding hell haha

[IDontPetLalas]

Ah yes, I should be forced off of the NA server I've been on for 7 years, away from the friends I've made over that time because *checks notes* spelling colour without the U is a threat to the English language. I'm from New Zealand, have you heard how we say deck? The changes from British English to American English are hardly the worst things to happen to the language.

Anyway, I don't see a reason not to open the data centres up between NA and EU, I need help from the British to convince the yanks to spell colour with a U.

Even more amusing considering that there is no such thing as "NA English", this is specific to Canada - take a look, we borrowed from multiple cultures to have our own version https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_English , however the funniest thing is that historically - that's how English has grown - we could import words from any country at any time.

[echoica]

I have played two years on NA and the rest of the time on EU. From my own experience i can say this is not true, not at all. The amount of toxicity and sheer insanity i have seen on NA compared to EU is unbelievable.

I’m in eastern Canada with literally the same ping to both EU and NA. I’ve been playing since 2.0 on NA (Aether) and more recently on EU (Light) the past 2 years doing all varieties of content and honestly this comment is VERY true imo. Not to say there are no idiots in EU, of course there are, but EU is by far MUCH more pleasant than NA. Especially in DF and PF. I adore EU tbh. NA is considerably more toxic. Whatever the majority wants to do in this matter is obviously fine but I kind of like the separation for these regions. SHRUG

[TheDustyOne]

Even more amusing considering that there is no such thing as "NA English", this is specific to Canada - take a look, we borrowed from multiple cultures to have our own version https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_English , however the funniest thing is that historically - that's how English has grown - we could import words from any country at any time.

The evolution of English is something I find kind of interesting. Old English is very, very different; imagine not saying "animal" but referring to every animal as "deer". The Norman invasion is the main reason we have a lot of French influence in the language. Spelling wasn't really standardized until very recently (good luck to anyone wanting to read Shakespeare without translating it to modern English). A lot of the standards in US English largely came about as "the brits had it that way, then they changed it and the US didn't get the memo", or things just developed independently because a standard had yet to be developed from either end. Languages change and evolve over time, especially when they get influences from other cultures, it's normal.

[CNitsah]

I cannot speak for most of EU, but from what I've seen on the server I'm on:
- Most players do not care about what race you play and you will likely rarely get harassed for it if at all.
- They understand the concept of 18+
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- Many respect the roles of other players and will likely wait for the healer or tank should they lag behind for some reason (like they don't have their gap closer or sprint is on cooldown, or perhaps rolling on loot).
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- RP is organized over Discord, wchich has the advantage that they cannot get harassed by shouters or nightclub owners.

Those are example I would like to keep. For example the whole" Au'ra are groomers" thing seems so dumb to me. If it wasn't for the forum and reddit, I wouldn't even know about this kind of things. Every time I see something that send me in a "WTF" state, in the forum, it's an american thing. There sure isn't culture shock, but there seem to be enough culture differences to be warry.