Greenlight NA and EU Travel

[shoba]

We all know Square has the technology to open DC travel to all regions, and they already did so with Oceania.

Recently, in gamescon, someone asked Yoshi-P when will he open travel between NA and EU, and he said he's waiting for the community to greenlight it. Here is the clip about it https://x.com/MysteriousRyan/status/1827803223970746441

It may come with its own issues such as language barriers and also the war between macros and waymark dance in PF. But we've already seen NA and EU players play together; and honestly, we both have similar gaming cultures overall.

Many players who reside in EU also play in NA because they have friends there and vice versa. People can travel too to different regions but may be hesitant to change their regions in XIV because they have already established themselves in a certain region.

So am making this post so we can give the greenlight for SE to open up travel between EU and NA.

Main arguments so far:

1. Aether will be flooded! EU will end up dying, because all the players will want to raid on the big shiny raid hub known as Aether, just like what happened with other NA datacenters!

The reason why other NA datacenters died and went to Aether, because the jump from Primal to Aether is not any different. At the end of the day, you will have the same hours, same ping, same everything; you're just in Aether. EU has an opposite peak time to NA; when it's peak times in NA, EU is already sleeping, and vice versa. Don't forget that EU players will also have 200+ ping if they played in NA, I can assure you they won't abandon EU for good. The comment on peak times is especially important here, we EU/Asian players sometimes are unable to do certain content because it's not NA peak hours (older alliance raids, older exploration zones), and have no option but to sometimes stay a little bit up, or just get lucky and wait for people to magically do the content we want to do at a reasonable time for us. Statics and PF raiding can also be a problem, this is especially true if you want to tackle legacy ultimates, it's sometimes harder if you're unable to raid on peak hours. If we're able to access EU datacenters from NA, it will be very helpful for us. Now, this will probably lead to the following question:


2. Well, if you're an EU player, then why are you playing on NA?

Because the people who introduced FFXIV to me were from NA, so naturally, I went to NA to play with them. Thankfully, there're many EU/Asian players on NA with the same experience. It's very easy to meet people all over the world on the internet, we can't just not end up befriending someone from an opposite timezone, and of course we would wanna hang out with them, which brings in the issue of "If I play on NA, then I'll play with friends, but I'll miss out on peak hours". I think having the option to go to EU would really help on this, we get to stay on the same datacenter as friends, but can also access peak hours.

[Carin-Eri]

Although I'm not clear on why he's waiting for the community to greenlight it, this absolutely has my support.

[PercibelTheren]

I would also like this. I have friends who play on NA and would love to visit them some time.

[shoba]

Although I'm not clear on why he's waiting for the community to greenlight it, this absolutely has my support.

Agree! I guess he's worried about culture clash which imo shouldn't be a problem with EU and NA considering NA and EU already raid together

[WantlessYoYo]

Lots of people like me who have friends on both NA and EU been waiting it for ages and i couldn't but want it

But then also read people that are just so afraid of culture clash and specially raiding being "infested" with other DCs, which, you really fear someone from NA will want to play on EU with over 150/200 ping(unless EU living person playing on NA and viceversa) but c'mon, it just won't happen most of the time

Now for the community greenlight that's a wonder i have how YoshiP will do it

[shoba]

Lots of people like me who have friends on both NA and EU been waiting it for ages and i couldn't but want it

But then also read people that are just so afraid of culture clash and specially raiding being "infested" with other DCs, which, you really fear someone from NA will want to play on EU with over 150/200 ping(unless EU living person playing on NA and viceversa) but c'mon, it just won't happen most of the time

Now for the community greenlight that's a wonder i have how YoshiP will do it

Honestly the culture clash is surely going to be in the minority. I see culture clash within EU already because of French and German players, but these things will happen and shouldn't really take away something that can benefit others. Raiding is gonna have its problems and trolls will be present; but again, probably a minority. Honestly high ping gaming is not all that terrible as someone who always plays with high ping, you just have to adjust around it and figure out when snapshots occur. Xenosysvex already raids with an EU group despite being in NA, and of course people from SEA, middle east, and other parts of Asia or Africa already play with high ping and we manage.

This will be a good thing for the community and will allow people friends who play on separate regions to play together. Sure, you can do that in Oceania, but PF isn't as active as it is in NA or EU either, and honestly for me as someone who's not American playing in NA is my biggest personal issue, and I play in NA because I joined this game that was recommended by NA friends.

[Asari5]

after seeing how people on many servers kinda are forced to travel to another datacenter to run content since the datacenter travel got introduced i have to say i'm against it.

[shoba]

after seeing how people on many servers kinda are forced to travel to another datacenter to run content since the datacenter travel got introduced i have to say i'm against it.

I don't think these two are the same though, the same demographic of people who do this probably won't be the same people who travel to a different region to raid. This is more for people who're in NA or EU to be able to play with each other without having to make alts.

I can see why this might be bad because it might force people who're awake while NA is asleep to travel to EU to run content. But that's typically around degen times for NA anyways when it's less active already. Especially trying to do ultimate totem runs feels really difficult if you're not going peak times, which can be hard for non-NA who play in NA.

[Toutatis]

after seeing how people on many servers kinda are forced to travel to another datacenter to run content since the datacenter travel got introduced i have to say i'm against it.

Same. I am pretty happy atm. Primal has a decent pf again, no need to travel and play the PF wait game while having nothing to do. It’s possible to do other things again and keep up with the FC. When I want to run stuff with friends cross DC we meet on materia/dynamis depending on whether they are from the EU or NA.

Edit: if they ever implement a regional cross dc df and pf, my opinion may change.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

after seeing how people on many servers kinda are forced to travel to another datacenter to run content since the datacenter travel got introduced i have to say i'm against it.

1000000000000000000000000000x this.

Until PF has a basic function such as.
"Exclude players from foreign Regions" Or able to include other DCs in your region "like AETHER-DYNAMIS-CRYSTAL-PRIMAL" then the idea of opening the floodgates is generally probably a bad idea. As it stands PF's happen 99% of the time on Aether in NA...which you usually cannot get to by the afternoon everyday and I can imagine what the locals login queues get to be like by the afternoon.

PF's need more refined tools.