Mr. Naoki Yoshida, have you forgotten your own "Three Easy Steps to Failure"?

[CNitsah]

That isn't really true...

We are getting a lot more social, large-scale content, such as:

• Field Operations with relic grinds
• Cosmisc Exploration
• Savage alliance raids

As for long-term content, that is subjective and depends on the person. I have been busy farming hunts for the hunt mount, PvP for its mount, FATEs for its rewards and mount and still need to do the raid content for those mounts. All of this content is large scale and involves playing with 24+ people. If some people sped through this, congrats, but I need to actually eat and sleep as well...

I thought it was obvious I meant right now, since I even talk about field operation future implementation (and that field operation is not before X.2 or X.25), which mean in 6 to 8 month from now. They could change that, but my hopes on that are limited.

[Dante131]

All points you bring up has been present since ARR, and you were blind to them back then.
So why now? Why is Dawntrail the sticking point to you all.

because it is bad just simple as that. its boring provides nothing intresting so far. While HS SB ShB and Endwalker had an intresting story DT just made me fall asleep like ff16 tbh. QoL changes doesnt exist because the graphic update is here which in my side havnt changed much but brought some funny bugs not gonna lie. While the other things been enjoyable some others enjoyed the battle systems like in SB. Considered for raider the best expansion was SB. See people are not talkin DT like they do because they hate it, most just want the game beeing good again and evolve. I dont know why its so hard to understand this.

[Dante131]

I'm so confused by all of this.
I've been playing since ARR and i've been loving the story and pretty much everything about it.
People seem to be raving about EW while I thought the whole expansion including combat was mostly boring af..
I enjoyed the story including Wuk. Maybe the difference is is that I didn't hype DT at all after not expecting much after EW.
Different folks different strokes I guess.
Not saying ppl arent entitled to their opinion, but geez its a bit over the top

cant agree. After EW 6.X i had no expactations at all and i knew it will be slow. So i was like ill give it a try. never felt so bored in 14 not even in ARR...

[Jojoya]

1. An unhealthy obsession with graphic quality

2. A surprising lack of MMORPG knowledge among development team members

3. The mindset that the solution to every problem could be patched in a future update

1 - Thank your fellow players and their obsession with graphics. There are usually small graphics updates each expansion that affect new assets but players always want old assets updated as well.

2 - What standard are you using when you make that claim? A MMORPG is not a single specific thing and this game has always been somewhat outside of what western players are used to seeing from western MMORPGs. The poor story in DT isn't from a lack of MMORPG knowledge and experience (the main writer has done several parts of the MSQ in the past). It was just a bad story.

3 - That's not their mindset for Dawntrail and it hasn't been their mindset since YoshiP took over. Their goal is to try out new things in Dawntrail and see what players like and what they dislike. It is the very essence of "Learn to listen and adapt." Players have said "we want you to shake the game up and try new things". So they've shaken some things up and now they're combing through the feedback so they can adapt based on what did or didn't work.

I don't think he's lost sight of what he said in that presentation at all. Seems more like some players forget the game doesn't revolve around what they personally want. Not giving you what you want doesn't mean they're not listening or they don't know their jobs.

You can try to downplay the game as much as you want but it's still one of the best MMORPGs on the market today and I doubt that's going change any time soon. If there is a better MMORPG out there, sounds like you should go play it so you can come back with more specific point to point comparisons.

No, that wasn't a "then quit" comment. Nothing says we can only play one game.

[IvoryHawk]

we've been in maintenance mode since the last 2 patches of EW, almost 2 years now? or more, savage and extremes are the only real content currently, and the looting system for savage has sucked ever since launch of a savage, the world isn't large enough to really want to explore, once you've been to the zones, there's nothing else to do, once you've levelled up all your jobs, i guess you could go for single digit percentile catch rate fish on a busted timer that you have to google to find or something.

The game is very new player friendly, but once you've done most of the content, it's really just sitting about till an eventual large open zone is patched in, at the least they could look into reworking BLU, it's a very lonely job, there should be some sort of duty queue with basic skills so you can at least play without the need to go out of your way to look for people.

[Jeeqbit]

we've been in maintenance mode since the last 2 patches of EW

Strange that you think this. I don't see any difference since like... Heavensward really. I think it's your imagination.

[Lazariah]

3. The mindset that the solution to every problem could be patched in a future update

*looks at Viera and Hrothgar awkwardly* Like, yeah they've been not really following that plenty in prior years but those two races are the WORST offenders AND it was all done on purpose with the intent to just leave it for later.

[Araxes]

The Graphics update was needed, it was just not thoroughly tested and executed. It would have needed a lot more time.