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    Darkstride's Avatar
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Highlander Eyebrows - 7.0 Graphics

    In case anyone didn't know, male Highlanders can't have eyebrows. The eyebrow option only changes brow shape, but they are hairless in all choices. The only way to have brows since launch is to use the makeup option amd essentially paint them on. For the most part, this has been sufficient.

    I'm trying to remake my character in the Benchmark, and now the makeup option looks ridiculous. It arches more upward and almost gives a suprised face. I'm going to have to either settle for no brows at all or change to another model, which I really don't want to do. I love how my character looks.

    Please just give Highlanders actual eyebrows. A single option would be adequate. It's a real bummer.

    Edit: it doesn't look as bad during the actual benchmark, so maybe I jumped the gun. But in the character creation his face looked quite different with a raised brow. The upgraded graphics does also make it more apparent that it's makeup rather than hair, though, so I'd still like even just 1 option for real brows.
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    Last edited by Darkstride; 08-07-2024 at 09:30 AM.

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    Azi Kerilade
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    Lack of eyebrows is single-handedly the only reason why I don't play male Highlander.

    I have character appearance saved in the character creator, and even used it for some time, but just didn't look right.
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    I'm with you, man. The face paint option has helped up to this point but it already looks rough any time the camera gets close to my character. It's only gonna look rougher in comparison as everything gets crisper after the update. I tried the benchmark today myself and I was also pretty bummed with how it looked.

    I feel like the game is long past the point where the lore can explain male highlander players not having the option to use eyebrows. We've seen two highlander characters appear in the story with eyebrows. We've also seen highlanders from a huge variety of cultures and I simply find it hard to believe a practice like shaving eyebrows would be followed ubiquitously across all of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anzaman View Post
    Lack of eyebrows is single-handedly the only reason why I don't play male Highlander.

    I have character appearance saved in the character creator, and even used it for some time, but just didn't look right.
    I'm sure you're not alone. I bet a lot of people would give highlanders a try if they could use eyebrows. They're pretty much the only medium build male character model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risough View Post
    I'm with you, man. The face paint option has helped up to this point but it already looks rough any time the camera gets close to my character. It's only gonna look rougher in comparison as everything gets crisper after the update. I tried the benchmark today myself and I was also pretty bummed with how it looked.

    I feel like the game is long past the point where the lore can explain male highlander players not having the option to use eyebrows. We've seen two highlander characters appear in the story with eyebrows. We've also seen highlanders from a huge variety of cultures and I simply find it hard to believe a practice like shaving eyebrows would be followed ubiquitously across all of them.



    I'm sure you're not alone. I bet a lot of people would give highlanders a try if they could use eyebrows. They're pretty much the only medium build male character model.
    While I would agree with you it looks dumb, it's cannon that if you're a highlander WoL you're Ala Mhigan, which means you shave your eyebrows culturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    While I would agree with you it looks dumb, it's cannon that if you're a highlander WoL you're Ala Mhigan, which means you shave your eyebrows culturally.
    Can you provide a citation for the claim that highlander WoLs are Ala Mhigan and follow their cultural practices?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risough View Post
    Can you provide a citation for the claim that highlander WoLs are Ala Mhigan and follow their cultural practices?
    Firstly the shaving eyebrows and scaring pre dates Ala Mhigo, it's been their their culture the entire time along side scarification and removal of teeth etc, go to the official lore about the clan and you will see that. It also states on the character creator that highlanders have become increasingly rare and almost exclusively come from Ala Mhigo. So while you could make the argument it says "almost" giving the idea your highland could theoretically come from someplace else. The initial homeland and culture of highlanders predates the founding of Ala Mhigo. This is why the facial features are scarificaiton. Now granted I agree that if on the creator it allows us to choose to scar the face or not, it implies these cultural things are optional therefor you should give the option of having eyebrows. But it is indeed the culture of all highlanders over 99% being from Ala Mhigo,
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    Lutia Chassebel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    While I would agree with you it looks dumb, it's cannon that if you're a highlander WoL you're Ala Mhigan, which means you shave your eyebrows culturally.
    They state the reverse actually as early as the ARR Miner quests where Deep Canyon acknowledges that you are not Ala Mhigan and probably from farther abroad. I don't believe the WoL's clan is ever actually acknowledged at any point. If the game even did so, Hellsguard characters wouldn't have their name split into either just mentioning forename/surname when referred to.

    Also Ivon Coeurlfist, who is like the epitome of Highlander Ala Mhigans, doesn't just have eyebrows; he has the bushiest brows, practically beards above his eyes.

    Anyway more on topic it would be a great customization option to have actual eyebrows for highlanders because as shown in this thread and elsewhere, they've implemented NPCs that use the normal highlander model but with full eyebrows added to the model.
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    I don't know a single dadlander that doesn't either use the face paint or wear glasses/shades to cover them up. They gave Hrothgar eyebrows mid expansion and Midlander even got a whole new face to go around the face limitations, I don't see why it'd be that hard to do the same for Highlanders given SE themselvs avoid not giving them brows. They know people want them.

    Even the lore reason is dumb. All Ala mhigans are Highlanders, not all Highlanders are Ala mhigan. The player Highlander could've been born in Doma for all everyone knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Ruin Darkstride
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    The main issue I have is that they changed the placement of the makeup option, so it sits differently on their eyebrows. I had gotten used to it, but now in the Benchmark creator it looks almost comical. During the Benchmark itself, it's less notable because the character actually has facial expressions, but head-on with a blank face, the eyebrow makeup looks so much more out of place than it ever did.

    There's another thread someone posted that shows the makeup doesn't even align with Elezen eyebrows anymore either, so it's not just my eyes deceiving me.
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Embrace your lack of eyebrows. Vanity need not control you.

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