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  1. #361
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekh View Post
    You're punching yourself in the face when you say things like that. For the past few pages I haven't seen anyone state that. All I've seen is hate towards a shirt that says transphobes.


    The word really hurts them, we all know why though.
    did i say only and explicitly here? no i didnt, i mean in general. funny how people such as you will lump all the people who dislike the actor into 1 group but using a broad term on the other side is wrong? make up your mind

    i have been called that many times for disliking the quality of the work so yes, the defenders resort to such childish absolutes quite often, perhaps not here, but on other places, not everyone, but vocal ones often do when they dont have an actual counter to someone disliking the work
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  2. #362
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    I am not talking about critics am I? I am talking about people who HAVE went after her because she is trans. People have been going too far labeling anyone criticizing her work as transphobes. Not right, most of the issue was the writing but some parts of her work were rough. But point is, I am talking about the transphobes not the critics. When shit is directed at transphobes it is justice.
    Yeah.... except that people with valid critics was called bygot/transphobe/homophobe etc... in this case in the purpose to invalid thoses well founded critics so...
    Trying to defend this person is just playing the Don Quixote.
    Sena Bryer is just en overall toxic person, and we should just stop talking about her.... She doesn't deserve all this attention.
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  3. #363
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    Wuk Lamat Arc never ends.
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  4. #364
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormChase View Post
    So far I've seen her get:
    • Harassed
    • Misgendered
    • Accused of being a fake latina
    • Told she should be replaced with AI
    • The list goes on

    They'll do this under any social media post of hers, no matter how inoffensive it is. They don't need to be provoked. And they were saying nasty stuff about her even before the expansion came out. It's not about being "unprofessional". That's nothing but an excuse.
    U wanna link the proof cause I dont think anyone cares enough to go outta way to harrass them....
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    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

  5. #365
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    I'm gone for 9 hours and people are still overreacting to a silly harmless edgy shirt and making up rumours in an attempt to incite outrage. But no, Sena is the toxic person clearly.

    Anyway, like I said pages ago, criticism is fine. Criticise the performance, meme on it, whatever. That's all perfectly fine. Personal/targeted attacks/harassment is just being a jerk (and I'm putting this nicely). Just keep it to the game and leave real life nonsense out of it.
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  6. #366
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    Aren't women a protected class? Why is it OK to attack them?
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  7. #367
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    god damn there is some defence dedication in these threads
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    Urgh.

  8. #368
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    Not when it is directed at transphobes, that is called justice.
    and who are you to pass down decree on others? who are you to say who should live and who should die? who are you to justify this behaviour. were people to turn it on you, and wear shirts like that aimed at you, you would not like it either., but nobody could stop them doing so. This "i am the law" mentally works both ways. thats why we have actual judges and legal systems

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    And you shouldn't make up "what if" scenarios to incite outrage. That's (one of the ways) how misinformation starts.
    i hope you can see the lengths you really are going to here to defend this. firstly. you accept that if the word phobes was removed from the shirt, that it would not be okay, secondly you accept that that shirt is hate speech. but if its a ffxiv voice actress doing it, its okay. do you realize? surely you must. the rest of us can see through this.
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 09-12-2024 at 09:10 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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  10. #369
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    Nestama isn’t here for a genuine, good-faith discussion. They’ve misused the tags to derail the thread and deflect the conversation. Nestama genuinely believes it’s “just a harmless shirt,” and engaging with them is pointless. Even pages ago, when evidence was presented, they continued stirring the pot. At this point, it honestly feels like their goal is to derail the thread entirely and get it locked. Engaging further will only feed into that. The best thing to do is ignore them and discuss around them.



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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

  11. #370
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    Nestama isn’t here for a genuine, good-faith discussion. They’ve misused the tags to derail the thread and deflect the conversation. Nestama genuinely believes it’s “just a harmless shirt,” and engaging with them is pointless. Even pages ago, when evidence was presented, they continued stirring the pot. At this point, it honestly feels like their goal is to derail the thread entirely and get it locked. Engaging further will only feed into that. The best thing to do is ignore them and discuss around them.



    I said it a few pages back and I'll say it again. The dude is driven by personal agenda and nothing else. Its within everyone's best interest to ignore and just continue the discussion without him. Dude even changed one of his tags in response to one I placed a while ago.
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