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    Kakurady's Avatar
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    Mango Durango
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    Alchemist Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryMothNoises View Post
    The best way to describe the Sui-No-Sato is Shinto with Onmyodo elements as well. The way of Kami. And when you do, you need to throw you any western view point you have of religion (like how Kami doesn't actually mean God). The entire area of the Ruby Sea, Sui No Sato ESPECIALLY is based on the folktale of Urashima Tarō. The Sui no Sato are specifically, in this case based on Ryujin's servants to his dragon palace. (As you see the Rean as body guards in Shisui of the Violet Tides.) Also Shinto = Shrine, Buddism = Temple. And interesting thing to note as Shisui has a temple in its dungeon. But I am unsure if the localization team changed it to temple because people mix this up all the time.
    Ah, so that's why there's a box in the dungeon that turns you old when you open it! I've never heard of Urashima Tarō before, so I didn't recognize the reference.

    Buddhism, when imported into Japan, easily merged with Shinto, to the point that shrines and temples were usually co-located, until the Japanese government forcibly separated the two, in an attempt to purge foreign influence. So I think it's not too surprising to have Shinto-like practice in a temple. Shisui is also more of a Japanese palace than a temple. (Compared with the Swallow's Compass, which is more inspired by Chinese architecture and Buddhism.)

    When it comes to Onmyodo, I think it's fine to take inspiration from pop culture depictions. The Ninja job's toolkit heavily leans into the folkloric and fantastical over the historical, even if the storyline is a mix of anime-like feats and mundane undercover work.
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    StormChase's Avatar
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    Baidur Haragin
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Botandoro View Post
    Hello! I'm currently trying to make a new character who will be a male Raen. I'm aware characters can have any job and it make sense or live anywhere, but I'm looking to try to stick to what would be expected of canon as much as I can.

    The base idea is for this character to be a priest of sorts? I'm not sure what would equate to that in Eorzea. Obviously I'm pushing aside anything that has to do with the Black Shroud considering as far as I'm aware we have not seen Au ra there, or Thanalan, or anywhere other than Othard really. I have a preference for something closer to the sea, which is why I'm currently interested in the Ruby Sea and it's surroundings. As for the First, I'm almost positive I wouldn't find anything that matches this sort of thing.

    I've read a bunch of things about Sui-No-Sato, but I was wondering if anyone knew more? They're a secluded people, but what deities do the Raen there pray to? Kami, or the Dawn Father? Do they have such beliefs at all, or is it really all about the princess?
    I've read in the Shisui of the Violet Tides's wiki page about the Shisui Temple, which was a welcome surprise considering that priest concept I had. However do we know anything about these ceremonies? And by association, what *is* Sui-No-Sato's culture? I heard accounts saying they don't fight, is that true? If they don't what do they do instead? What would be an appropriate playable job for a Raen coming from there, and I mean, one that he would have learned from a young age, supposedly. Would white mage make sense? I heard of the geomancer thing (very little though), is there an equivalent to, I don't know water for the people in Sui-No-Sato? I also like the idea of dancer, but do Raen on this side of the world actually learn and know of this job?

    Accesorily, I have not played Dawntrail yet, but I welcome lore bits if someone has ideas that would match what I'm looking for, or anything like that.

    I'm really trying to gather as much information as I can, anything would be appreciated!
    I'm not sure if you still need help but Raen have spread out in both Othard and Ilsabard. These are all the places where they're known to live:
    • Hingashi
    • Ruby Sea
    • Yanxia
    • Azim Steppe (Malaguld tribe specifically)
    • Nagxia
    • Dalmasca
    • Thavnair
    • Corvos
    • Werlyt

    As far as I know the Raen in Sui-no-Sato worship kami like the Kojin, Hingans, and Domans do. And they're very isolationist. You can be exiled if they fear you'll cause them to be threatened by outsiders.

    Othard has at least some starting classes, so it wouldn't be too far from canon to start as a conjurer. The average Sui-no-Sato Raen probably wouldn't know about dancer because it's from Thavnair.
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