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  1. #11
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    mallleable's Avatar
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Bunshin can boost the effectiveness of Bloodbath when paired. Funny thing is that they repurposed Meisui to be a self/targeted heal in PVP so there is an avenue of defensive Ninjutsus to explore.
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  2. #12
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    Equitable_Remedy's Avatar
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    Eristede Kell
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wayfinder3 View Post
    then you start crying that the jobs are homogenized
    This is correct.
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  3. #13
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Role actions are there to standardize a given role, so their entire point is to provide a homogeneous benefit to all jobs in that role. The distinction between physical and magical attacks is purely an aesthetic choice anyways, especially given that most jobs don't use MP.
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  4. #14
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    Antony Gabbiani
    World
    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Viper has no other Defensive Utility, Ninja has atleast Shapeshift which is huge. So if everything works for Ninja too with Bloodbath then i expect go get a defensive Tool as Viper.
    Shadeshift also already has the longest defensive cooldown for all the melee DPS, tied with Riddle of Earth on monk, but without the party-wide heal that monk has attached to its defensive.

    Ninja has possibly the worst self mitigation as a result.

    It's honestly kind of dumb when you see Reaper with only 30 second cooldown on its defensive and samurai with 15 seconds, but ninja has to wait 2 minutes for its defensive to come off cooldown. They could cut that in half and it still wouldn't be balanced to the others.

    Quote Originally Posted by mallleable View Post
    Bunshin can boost the effectiveness of Bloodbath when paired. Funny thing is that they repurposed Meisui to be a self/targeted heal in PVP so there is an avenue of defensive Ninjutsus to explore.
    While true, times you need to use bloodbath don't nessecarily align with 90 second cooldown on bunshin.
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    Last edited by wereotter; 09-10-2024 at 01:54 AM.

  5. #15
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    This is correct.
    Why do you think this?
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  6. #16
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Now that 7.1 is out, I would like to bring attention to the plight of Bloodbath once more.

    The recent changes to Ninja are very nice and I am thrilled to see the changes made to Ten Chi Jin. Unfortunately Bloodbath still does not work on half of Ninja's abilities, a fact woefully made all-the-more-apparent by my recent forays with the Monk Job.

    We still need Bloodbath to work with Ninjutsu and other magical abilities, CS3. Please make it so.
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