Ninja and Bloodbath

[TheGrimace]

Works with Bloodbath:
Spinning Edge
Gust Slash
Armor Crush
Aeolian Edge
Death Blossom
Hakke Mujinsatsu
Assassinate
Dream Within a Dream
Mug
Dokumori
Fuma Shuriken
Trick Attack
Kunai's Bane
Throwing Dagger

Does not work with Bloodbath:
Forked Raiju
Fleeting Raiju
Bhavacakra
Zesho Meppo
Hellfrog Medium
Deathfrog Medium
Raiton
Hyoton
Hyosho Ranryu
Huton
Katon
Goka Mekkyaku
Suiton
Tenri Jindo
Phantom Kamaitachi

Many of Ninja's most powerful abilities do not receive restorative effects when used in conjunction with Bloodbath. Creative Studio III, please change Bloodbath to activate with magical abilities and Ninjutsu. This has been an oversight for years, but has become more visible now that Viper is in the game. Ninja should have the same PVE self-recovery benefits as Viper, Monk, Samurai, and Dragoon. Reaper would also benefit from this change with Communio, Gluttony, and Harvest Moon.

Thanks.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Viper has no other Defensive Utility, Ninja has atleast Shapeshift which is huge. So if everything works for Ninja too with Bloodbath then i expect go get a defensive Tool as Viper.

[BabyYoda]

Viper has no other Defensive Utility, Ninja has atleast Shapeshift which is huge. So if everything works for Ninja too with Bloodbath then i expect go get a defensive Tool as Viper.

Nope bloodbath should work for Ninja too.. Idk if vpr has no utility.. role skill should be working for Ninja as it is working for Viper

[nguyentri11]

I agree. I doubt magic attacks from RPR and NIN not benefiting from Bloodbath restoration was some sort of "intended balance". It's just a past remnant of it used to being a cross class action from Marauder and they never bothered to adjust it to both types of damage to this day.

[Aco505]

Bloodbath should work with all damage.

[TheGrimace]

Viper has no other Defensive Utility, Ninja has atleast Shapeshift which is huge. So if everything works for Ninja too with Bloodbath then i expect go get a defensive Tool as Viper.

I have nothing against Viper getting another defensive cooldown, but that is not the purpose of this thread. I do not think that Shapeshift is so powerful that Bloodbath should stay as it is.

[Wayfinder3]

then you start crying that the jobs are homogenized

[EchoingPulse]

I was always under the impression that Bloodbath works on ACTUAL physical hitting attacks, like with your weapon—and not actually 'casting' abilities. Bloodbath + Phase Shift is pretty life-saving as ninja. The restorative effect should be more pumped, but that's about it.

[TheGrimace]

then you start crying that the jobs are homogenized

I promise you, changing Bloodbath to restore HP for more Ninja abilities will not make me cry in any way or form.

[Absurdity]

I promise you, changing Bloodbath to restore HP for more Ninja abilities will not make me cry in any way or form.

Also the fact that Bloodbath itself is already homogenized, every melee DPS has it, it's just flat out worse on one of them.