Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
Really? Cause I can point to a lot of complaints about job design that go all the way back to HW, especially Healer role and people wish for them to simplify it. I can point to several threads on people saying they should get rid of positionals. Hell we even had a thread saying Viper was too hard compared to the other melee.

All feedback that lead to oversimplification of jobs that guess what, a good chunk of the community doesn't like. So yeah, SE does take player feedback but while there is good feedback, there is also bad feedback. And they tend to take on alot of the bad feedback from people who have no concept of literature or game balance.



Uh?? Any thread that compares Wuk/DT to Lyse/SB have people definitively defending the latter.

If you want to hate DT, go for it. It's all subjective. But the presense of DT and Wuk Lamat does not suddenly undo 6-7 years of the forums dogging on SB MSQ and Lyse. You can literally look up MULTIPLE THREADS on this in the search results on these very forums.
Yes really. Because those are just examples.
The viper feedback was shot down by not a small amount of others in this same forum and people actually question where that large feedback that Yoshida implies came from, even on other sides.
BLM also. The amount of people that wanted a rigid rotation were far between the large amount that was just happy with the job.
And not many wanted the ice phase changes or Paradix removed.
But they changed it anyway.
Others have given more than enough feedback on how to change DRK but aren‘t listend to.

Also again, people weren’t asking for the WoL to be invisible.
Many just wanted to go back to adventuring nothing more.

On the Lyse matter:
Again most people just say that she was better in retrospect than they thought, nothing more.

Do your examples exist sure, but they are by far not the majority you try to imply.

If you read my other posts I agree that they listen to feedback. But at the end of the day the devs do whatever they want, nothing more.
Yoshida even says himself in the interviews that THEY tried all those things to look how people would react.
It was THEIR idea.

You confuse posters with parts of this feedback with the majority and even in those very same threads people disagree with each other.
It’s the job of the devs to sort through that stuff and find the right way. Leaning only to some small part of it is not the way though.