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  1. #1
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    I propose that the WoL should have access to combat jobs removed after completing 7.0. Let Llama Tea, the main character, stand on her own while her dutiful servant makes supplies for her realm.
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    Sa'eln Wolndara
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    Final battle against Shinryu-Zenos. We cut his tail to do massive damage. THen we are hit by hellfire and cutscene goes off. Suddenly Lyse cuts through time and space yelling: Spee.... I mean Zenos! I understand. I truly do. And cuts his head off.
    In SB we have got Yugiri and Gosetsu. Hien (my husbando #2), stupid namazu who people love for some reason. Hien, Yotsuyu, 2 new regions of Ala Mhigo and Far East. Semi-interesting shagin people, honorable pirates that i personaly found interesting, Asahi (be that post 4.0), Maxima, Gaius... Hien.
    Ofc we have more MSQ to come. More possibly beloved characters and stories. But with current wrighting team, i do not belive in this game's future. Storywise.
    I love MOST of job designs, Some issues can and will be fixed. I think we can all agree that new zones, dungeons and music are above the expectation (skydeep Cenote and Arcadion are my new favorites after 6 years!)
    Team just have to accept the criticism and change the course. Unfortunately, i am afraid they got the *we are right players are just wrong because (insert the slur) syndrome.
    I hope i am wrong.
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    Mainasu Kurohara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    First and foremost, I don't want to be relegated to a supporting character. The Warrior of Light should remain the narrative's main focus. I sincerely hope the development team takes this feedback to heart.
    Seriously, I hope they realize this. Anyone trying to shame anyone who has these sentiments as having 'main character syndrome' is completely surreal to me, given the game has always done a good job of giving your character plenty of moments to shine. It's not about being the center of attention 100% of the time, but it's about having a place in said story. I shouldn't be asking myself 'why am I here?' during the MSQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    They intentionally made a scene where sphene refused to tell erenville what happened to cauchia right to his face which was the most blatantly obvious representation that her whole “charming facade” was a crock of shit and then they still wanted us to believe that Sphene and Wuk were forcing some sort of actual bond when they did the final scene
    Betrays us once and tells us “ yes I wanted these souls so I started the war” and all scions and characters are like well it’s ok we forgive you and don’t hold any grudges against a person who did invade tural and killed innocent people only for the same person coming in not even 3 hours later and stealing a mcguffin that can do even more dmg while slowing walking through all scions and the main character and just choking picking it up while we stand around absolute idiots.
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    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    This completely ignores the lore of legacy WOL’s and the dubious canonicity of the fact that it’s possible that all players “experienced” legacy and were sent forward by louisoux even if only legacy players “remember” it

    The backstory is up to the player but haedalyn had nothing to do with it. Hell the starshower legacy players saw has nothing to do with haedalyn anyway, it’s a natural phenomenon. The only “predetermined” aspect of your player is the fact that you are a shard of azem but that’s how the aetherial sea works
    It’s kinda dumb that elpis takes a big chunk of character decisions away (from a random Adventure that has the blessing too “chosen one from back in elpis”) Because it being a time paradox you can say we effectively do give Hydaelyn all that informations on “how to make the perfect warrior of light”. This person dying ?? Was always supposed to happen and was predetermined because you told me about it in elpis. Like we as an individual character are free in our choices now after elpis and then we got the worst after main story patches in endwalker and the worst expansion start story in dawntrail.
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    Sa'eln Wolndara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    It’s kinda dumb that elpis takes a big chunk of character decisions away (from a random Adventure that has the blessing too “chosen one from back in elpis”) Because it being a time paradox you can say we effectively do give Hydaelyn all that informations on “how to make the perfect warrior of light”. This person dying ?? Was always supposed to happen and was predetermined because you told me about it in elpis. Like we as an individual character are free in our choices now after elpis and then we got the worst after main story patches in endwalker and the worst expansion start story in dawntrail.
    there are several time travel theories. 14 just took this one and i am all for it especially after WE taught frogs to tounge pull and aoe belly slam and last but not least, current behemoth state including METEOR!? ill leave this time travel as it is
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    Katarh Mest
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    ...... you realize that 90% of the monster and race modes in XIV were ripped straight out of other games, right? And tons of races were borrowed from other games? Them having Pelupelu isn't ripping off another game, it's an homage to that game. Same way Triple Triad and the Ivalice raids are.

    XIV is called the Final Fantasy theme park for a reason.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    ...... you realize that 90% of the monster and race modes in XIV were ripped straight out of other games, right? And tons of races were borrowed from other games? Them having Pelupelu isn't ripping off another game, it's an homage to that game. Same way Triple Triad and the Ivalice raids are.

    XIV is called the Final Fantasy theme park for a reason.
    You know you are supposed to actually do something unique with what you draw inspiration from. All the primals from 14 are based off of summons/enemies/etc from old FF games but they have their own unique twists and designs with their own lore

    Something like the pelupelu isn’t “inspiration” because they just took the design from 10 then failed to inject anything uniquely 14 into them, they are just a void of a race based on 10
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    ...... you realize that 90% of the monster and race modes in XIV were ripped straight out of other games, right? And tons of races were borrowed from other games? Them having Pelupelu isn't ripping off another game, it's an homage to that game. Same way Triple Triad and the Ivalice raids are.

    XIV is called the Final Fantasy theme park for a reason.
    I'm all for fan service. Hell, majority of enemies are ripped straight out of XI, which always gives me a nostalgia trip. Even your character design is based off of Mithra in XI, but if they're going to copy and paste NPC races, at least give them the XIV sparkle.
    The majority of races in DT are copy & paste reskins and recolours. Devoid of an oomph to set them apart.

    I'm really not sure what point you're trying to debate, but I'm open to more of your thoughts and opinions.
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Phoenix
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    It does feel like they have deliberately been steering away from the things that made FFXIV special, starting with the end of SHB where they prematurely ended half their plot.

    For all of ARR's issues, the world still felt mature, something that's been absent from a large part of EW and almost all of DT. Tuliolala and Raz was all sunshine and utopia like, while Sharlaya was neutered from what we had been teased about earlier with their assassinations.

    They also don't want to pull in side story to the main-store like what happened with Crystal Tower, Alexander and Omega... Even though that's one of the things truly elevated the story well above that of other jrpgs. How Gaia, Cyella and Unukalhai was largely ignored in our brief void quest.
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