Why is FFXIV using rubber bullets in the wild west?

[Vinter]

There's been a shift in the last couple of years in gaming where developers for some inexplicable reason feel the need to ensure that their games have to be ideologically consistent with what they wish to see in real life. Can't have slavery in a game because it might be seen as an endorsement of it irl, can't have injustice, racism, sexual violence etc. because it might trigger someone. Nothing adult, nothing real, everything has to be idealised and safe. Only black and white, no grey.

Remember going from ARR to HW and getting absolutely shafted? There was no simple solution of just talking it out or solving our differences with tacos. The enemy was competent and we got outplayed, it was unfair, it was frustrating, there was nothing we could do about it, and it was great. We need more of that.

[sharplysurreal]

There's been a shift in the last couple of years in gaming where developers for some inexplicable reason feel the need to ensure that their games have to be ideologically consistent with what they wish to see in real life. Can't have slavery in a game because it might be seen as an endorsement of it irl, can't have injustice, racism, sexual violence etc. because it might trigger someone. Nothing adult, nothing real, everything has to be idealised and safe. Only black and white, no grey.

Remember going from ARR to HW and getting absolutely shafted? There was no simple solution of just talking it out or solving our differences with tacos. The enemy was competent and we got outplayed, it was unfair, it was frustrating, there was nothing we could do about it, and it was great. We need more of that.

this sums up what I think as well. we don't need a sanitized on rails experience because at that point it's just a propaganda train ride from a dystopian theme park. we need a well crafted fantasy story that is engaging and real.

[GartredZW]

Dawntrail as a whole feels like they wanted to target a younger audience, but that confuses me on two fronts.
1) the audience for the game isn't getting any younger, so why target anyone other than the people who've supported this game this far.
2) This new younger audience still has to make it through the Hydaelyn v Zodiark storyline to get to Dawntrail. Which means they'll see themes of racial prejudice, wartorn refugees, imperialism, slavery, religious dogmatism, warmongering tyrants, attempted genocide, cults of personality, suicide, prostitution, political assassinations, child soldiers, mass death, dismemberment, nihilism, existentialism, and even being forced to end the life of someone you hold dear for the greater good.

This game can get dark in between the cute bunny people, and eccentric inspectors. To see that get downgraded to "I want to be the dawnservant because I like smiling, and I want to see everyone else smile too, because when you smile I smile. So I'll try my best to make everyone happy! Because that's my ninja way. Believe it!" is disappointing, and at times downright insulting (especially because that quote is only a slight exaggeration)

[sharplysurreal]

Dawntrail as a whole feels like they wanted to target a younger audience, but that confuses me on two fronts.
1) the audience for the game isn't getting any younger, so why target anyone other than the people who've supported this game this far.
2) This new younger audience still has to make it through the Hydaelyn v Zodiark storyline to get to Dawntrail. Which means they'll see themes of racial prejudice, wartorn refugees, imperialism, slavery, religious dogmatism, warmongering tyrants, attempted genocide, cults of personality, suicide, prostitution, political assassinations, child soldiers, mass death, dismemberment, nihilism, existentialism, and even being forced to end the life of someone you hold dear for the greater good.

This game can get dark in between the cute bunny people, and eccentric inspectors. To see that get downgraded to "I want to be the dawnservant because I like smiling, and I want to see everyone else smile too, because when you smile I smile. So I'll try my best to make everyone happy! Because that's my ninja way. Believe it!" is disappointing, and at times downright insulting (especially because that quote is only a slight exaggeration)

very true I agree 100%. it doesn't make sense and just takes away from the game. Even if the values of wuk lamat aren't wrong, when purchasing Dawntrail i did so because I wanted more FFXIV not dora the explorer.

[Raven2014]

Dawntrail as a whole feels like they wanted to target a younger audience, but that confuses me on two fronts.

I know this gonna sound a bit ironic because what I'm about to say will sound like a conspiracy theory but ... I think the whole "modern audience" thing is just a conspiracy itself. Ever have some sale person from a "security camera company" knock on your door to in form you a burglar/thief had just happened down the street? And if you want to use their service as a prevention? I get like 3-4 visits like that in a year and you would think I would notice all the commotion. And despite their claim they were there to install the service for some of my neighbors, I never seen it on any house in my neighborhood.

The modern audience is the same IMO. It's false narrative propagate by a certain group of people just so they can present themselves as a solution because it's an easy way to land themselves some lucrative jobs they otherwise has no talent for. For me, it's just gamer and non gamer, and gamer can be young, can be old, but there is certainly isn't a "modern audience" among gamer ... like ... what does that even meant? Samething for stuffs like say ... Star War, again, there has always been star war fans and non-star war fan, but what is this modern star war audience?


And the saddest part is I think the reason why companies fell for this scam about the "mythical audience they need to target" is simply because they're out of touch with their real audience who actually exist

[Ayan_Calvesse]

I know this gonna sound a bit ironic because what I'm about to say will sound like a conspiracy theory but ... I think the whole "modern audience" thing is just a conspiracy itself. Ever have some sale person from a "security camera company" knock on your door to in form you a burglar/thief had just happened down the street? And if you want to use their service as a prevention? I get like 3-4 visits like that in a year and you would think I would notice all the commotion. And despite their claim they were there to install the service for some of my neighbors, I never seen it on any house in my neighborhood.

The modern audience is the same IMO. It's false narrative propagate by a certain group of people just so they can present themselves as a solution because it's an easy way to land themselves some lucrative jobs they otherwise has no talent for. For me, it's just gamer and non gamer, and gamer can be young, can be old, but there is certainly isn't a "modern audience" among gamer ... like ... what does that even meant? Samething for stuffs like say ... Star War, again, there has always been star war fans and non-star war fan, but what is this modern star war audience?


And the saddest part is I think the reason why companies fell for this scam about the "mythical audience they need to target" is simply because they're out of touch with their real audience who actually exist

It feels a bit regressive from what lies behind us for sure...not to mention to go from rubber bullets to murderous kill-bots with soul stealers.

[Kennar]

Around the turn of the last century, there were competitive dueling events (even in the Olympics) in which people shot each other with wax bullets. They wore face masks and heavy coats for protection; think of it like paintball or airsoft today. Settling differences with rubber bullets, though... I thought that was pretty lame. I rolled my eyes found bigger things to complain about.

Realistically, I think this whole thing is just a result of writers who only have a Hollywood-level of knowledge about the Old West, and don't have any real understanding of gun culture in the West (or about guns in general). Additionally, there is probably a healthy dose of sanitation to avoid "glorifying gun violence in these troubling times." The usage and design of firearms have always been wildly inconsistent in this game. Gunblades are stupid.

[Flick]

It's actually a pretty good idea. You can settle your spat without murder. Who knew?

[Daralii]

It's actually a pretty good idea. You can settle your spat without murder. Who knew?

Merlwyb and Sicard had a duel with normal musket balls and neither was even injured. Bullets even hitting a person was far from the norm in duels in the historical Old West.

[Flick]

Skill issue. Just aim better. ^^