YoshiP “Torn" Over What to do with the Scions (Interview)

[chizLemons]

(...) For DT, it was fine that the twins went… but even though they had a few speaking parts here and there, they didn’t really feel like themselves. Krile should definitely have had more spotlight… (...)

Graha was okay, and in particular, the gondola scene was great, but they could’ve given him more in the lead up to LM. (...)

The gondola scene was good, but everything else, for me it was NOT okay for G'raha either. For me he felt very out of character.
My point about having a reason for their absence and presente stands that, considering how he was acting, I'd rather he never appeared - at least I could pretend he was actually busy. Yes, even if that meant sacrificing the gondola scene...I could list everything that was off, but to not risk just getting off-topic, that didn't happen with just him. No one was acting like themselves, they all talked the same way, and only commented half-heartedly about things that were currently happening. Never about their own opinions or feelings.
G'raha semed like he was being more unique only because he talked about the First, but that was VERY weird coming from him - after he came back to the Source, he never talked lightly about his past experiences. Except for the gondola, he was talking about his life as the Exarch like it was something mundane he did once. It didn't sound like him.

And I also agree with what have been said in the thread already, that the reasons for the twins to be there don't make any sense, and didn't add anything to their character. I love them, but it actually feels bad that they were there: not only it didn't help them in any way, but they weren't themselves, and didn't contribute like we would expect them to. And if they weren't there, I don't think it would have changed anything for Krile, either. They could just take all of the lines from them and have Krile saying them, and it wouldn't change anything.

Yes, there were MANY missed opportunities that would make them all feel relevant and important to the story, and the writers didn't get it.
In the end, it's not about having the Scions or NOT, it's about GOOD WRITING. YoshiP is asking the wrong questions.
If the writing is good and respects the characters, Scions or not, people will be happy. If they justify the characters not being there by still making them feel alive and part of the world, it's not going to be a problem.

I'd love to still have the Scions there and I think they can still be included in meaningful ways, but DT was far from it.

[gumas]

Watch the dev remove scion in this new trilogy and make wuk lamat our new "alphinaud"

Please no....

[Infindox]

As for the others, I see a lot of missed opportunities. We should’ve had at least one fun friendly sparring match with Thancred & Urianger as a solo duty type thing. Other than that, they had a reason for being there, and were actually relevant to Koana’s story. Graha was okay, and in particular, the gondola scene was great, but they could’ve given him more in the lead up to LM. Y’shtola I feel will have more of a role in the patches, as we (hopefully!) research the key and see what it can do, but didn’t seem like she was utilized as well as she could be where she appeared.

I wrote this in another thread, but I would also like NPCs in general, but big ones like the Scions in particular, to be more interactive outside of the MSQ. Some of the examples I used were “mini-quests” like dropping in on Y’shtola for a cup of tea and chat about the latest (plot relevant) book she found in the restricted section, or go bar-hopping with Thancred, or stargazing with Urianger? Teach Alphinaud to swim? Have a sparring match with Alisae? Learn to paint with Krile? And most of those could have been done in Tural too. We could’ve went back to that taco stand with Graha and finally gotten our taco!

My issue with the whole thing of them being there for Koana is that once he decides he will help Wuk Lamat out to win, they literally disappear from the plot until the whole "fight against the Alexandrian invaders" part was going on. And they had a good scene with Koana, but that's about it. Kinda wanted more of that "two gay dads help out Koana" feeling that cutscene had even after he decided to stop winning.
I do agree with Y'shtola though, hoping that is the case.
Also those would be fun little side quests they could do, kinda like the Tataru ones in EW.

[Shibi]

I really liked Erinville and Robot Otis.

Would have been a good chance to retire off two core scions to the overworld, for later visits. With another two going later, then another two later.

RedSGE Alphi was just a hollow waste of breath sniping my heals and shields. RedSGE when I was GreenSGE - but still letting him heal and shield - just proved they couldn't even get that part right. Why not give Erinville a weapon instead?

[Infindox]

I really liked Erinville and Robot Otis.

Would have been a good chance to retire off two core scions to the overworld, for later visits. With another two going later, then another two later.

RedSGE Alphi was just a hollow waste of breath sniping my heals and shields. RedSGE when I was GreenSGE just proved they couldn't even get that part right. Why not give Erinville a weapon instead?

I personally think Erenville should stay combat job-less and be a party member that doesn't fight but helps out in other ways. It's an interesting dynamic that he has.

[Shibi]

I personally think Erenville should stay combat job-less and be a party member that doesn't fight but helps out in other ways. It's an interesting dynamic that he has.

I don't think he loses that dynamic if he had a dagger in his backpack. A RedSGE (who doesn't really dps properly but heals fully stealing the healers job) is just too much. but ok Fine I can accept it as I am not too invested in that specific, we could have grabbed any NPC to replace that DPS without making a RedSGE. That RedSGE was the mistake.

Alphi had Zero reason to be in the dungeons with any healer.

[Carin-Eri]

I personally think Erenville should stay combat job-less and be a party member that doesn't fight but helps out in other ways. It's an interesting dynamic that he has.

I still think he's going to be involved in the Beastmaster limited job quests, personally.

[Rueby]

I still think he's going to be involved in the Beastmaster limited job quests, personally.

I'd be disappointed if Lyon rem Helsos isn't our beastmaster mentor....

[Hallarem]

I'd be disappointed if Lyon rem Helsos isn't our beastmaster mentor....

We're in the New World and we have seen like one Whalaqee so far? In the cooking questline. Wouldn't be surrpised if they just sidelined Lyon and Papaga for some new unrecognizable mentors.

[Fawkes]

I'd be disappointed if Lyon rem Helsos isn't our beastmaster mentor....

Pagaga too pls