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  1. #81
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    Muutaras's Avatar
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    Ijn Akagi
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    Brynhildr
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    Sage Lv 100
    I am very glad that such a miracle can happen and someone will be warned/banned for passive dudes in playstyle that does not bring benefit to the team.
    Lately a lot of people play by the principle "I'm only here for daily exp" without making any effort. What's really annoying is that you have to carry these players who, even take a healer, can't just heal for the whole fight and end games with barely 200-300k heal.
    Just like the players on the Dancers and Sages who can't make a pair for the dance and kardia, basic PVE stuff. It's funny how people try to defend them when you point it out to them, or the typical FF player whining starts "he plays the way he wants". I just want to see people's reaction when they come in EX/Savage/ULT and will write "Dance pair give nothing" or "It wont change anything" and it'll be insta kick from party, but in Fls we need live with these people and only hope for kick vote + people who understand that this people have no value for team.
    I hope GMs will continue to monitor such reports more often and send people on "rest" if they are not interested in playing.I wish SE would make a simple quest for pvp, or if you take a new job and just go to pvp you are forcibly teleported to WD to adjust skills.

    Considering that people asked for a screenshot of this person's records and got nothing in response, I suppose his score is probably like this AST from the screenshot from my fights today and mostly looks like bot activity instead of player
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  4. #82
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    Muutaras's Avatar
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    Ijn Akagi
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    Brynhildr
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SubmarineAlt View Post
    Keep reporting them when you see them. The copy/paste message I get mentions "griefing" specifically, so it is having an impact and is getting reviewed (as OP can attest to).

    Really, the best fix they can do is that, instead of a flat EXP reward for the instance and roulette, it should be based on overall contribution. Die 8 times and feed the enemy team? 1/4 normal rewards. Deal 100k damage in 15 minutes? You get nothing.
    Yeah this kind of rule need added during Mog events for tomestones. If you get 1st place 5 mogglestones, 2nd place lets be 2-3, 3rd place 0 or max 1 this would add at least some competition to the fights. Not a babysitting on 5rd line from battlefield and get almost full reward like winning team
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  5. #83
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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SubmarineAlt View Post
    Keep reporting them when you see them. The copy/paste message I get mentions "griefing" specifically, so it is having an impact and is getting reviewed (as OP can attest to).

    Really, the best fix they can do is that, instead of a flat EXP reward for the instance and roulette, it should be based on overall contribution. Die 8 times and feed the enemy team? 1/4 normal rewards. Deal 100k damage in 15 minutes? You get nothing.
    That is a tall order to do with how absolutely unbalanced the jobs are in pvp. There are jobs that aren't intended to be doing much damage and there for support, and will probably only get Battle High from assist kills.
    I personally think FL should have no exp whatsoever and only reward tomes based on placement, but I know that is probably a very unpopular opinion.
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  6. #84
    Player AllenThyl's Avatar
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    Allen Thyl
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    Cerberus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    That is a tall order to do with how absolutely unbalanced the jobs are in pvp. There are jobs that aren't intended to be doing much damage and there for support, and will probably only get Battle High from assist kills.
    I personally think FL should have no exp whatsoever and only reward tomes based on placement, but I know that is probably a very unpopular opinion.
    An average FL match is 12 minutes. 120k damage divided by 12 minutes is 10k damage per minute. An average single target ability on an average target deals around 3k damage. That translates into 4 actions per minute. With a 2.5s recast time, that leaves 50 seconds out of every 60 seconds inactivity. That's basically afk. Now you.
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  7. #85
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    PorxiesRCute's Avatar
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    Nekhii Qestir
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    Kraken
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kai_Alura View Post
    There are so many variables that come into play during matches. Lag, controllers dying, emergencies etc. if I ever AFKed in a match it wasn’t done intentionally. ... Besides, even if that were true, CC matches aren’t more than 10 minutes, maybe you missed that detail in my post… so it’s not even applicable here.
    This is a really fascinating phenomenon I see around the internet a lot: "There are lots of reasons this might have happened..." But they don't specifically say that is what happened in their case, so they're not technically lying. People who like to get up on their high horse do this a lot. They think it gives them plausible deniability.

    Hint: It doesn't.

    Especially when you turn around at the end and go "Even if I did AFK it wasn't even for more than 10 minutes so that couldn't have been the incident I got reported for!!" No, but it's evidence that you're a serial PVP leecher.
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  8. #86
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    Darkstride's Avatar
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PorxiesRCute View Post
    This is a really fascinating phenomenon I see around the internet a lot: "There are lots of reasons this might have happened..." But they don't specifically say that is what happened in their case, so they're not technically lying. People who like to get up on their high horse do this a lot. They think it gives them plausible deniability.

    Hint: It doesn't.

    Especially when you turn around at the end and go "Even if I did AFK it wasn't even for more than 10 minutes so that couldn't have been the incident I got reported for!!" No, but it's evidence that you're a serial PVP leecher.
    Well, the OP's response to having 0 points in an entire match is
    Quote Originally Posted by Kai_Alura View Post
    No, the game automatically kicks you out if you’re AFK for two minutes. Obviously I’m playing the match
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  9. #87
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    Divinemights's Avatar
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    Well, the OP's response to having 0 points in an entire match is
    There are few posts got removed by the formm admin due to the reason one of the people who reported him reveals himself here.
    It is confirmed OP's ban is due to his repeated grieving to other players
    This entire post is just OP's attempt to bail the person who reported him, perhaps for retaliation?
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  10. #88
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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    An average FL match is 12 minutes. 120k damage divided by 12 minutes is 10k damage per minute. An average single target ability on an average target deals around 3k damage. That translates into 4 actions per minute. With a 2.5s recast time, that leaves 50 seconds out of every 60 seconds inactivity. That's basically afk. Now you.
    Now me what? I just stated it's something that I don't think they would want to fool around with. There is literally no reason to base rewards on damage when the jobs are unbalanced. Only thing that matters is kills and assisting on kills, doing the objective and keeping the opponents from doing the objective.
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  11. #89
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    Alyko Cautes
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 53
    Threads like these make me hope that the existing Account Action Review system has an outcome of an increased account penalty. OP, as a PvP enthusiast, you deserved your account action for griefing your team. PvP isn't Shatter: Ice Farming Simulator, and just because you did it for ten years without account sanctions doesn't make it right.

    Move with the blob and bonk the enemy and objectives, or help others in the blob bonk the enemy with your support abilities. Everyone should contribute to gaining Battle High.
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  12. #90
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    CamuiKushi's Avatar
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    Camulos Kellesha
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    Adamantoise
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    First of all, I will say that I don't think anyone should be banned and lose years of investment for bad play in one game mode. However As an FL enthusiast I will say that you are definitely playing the game mode wrong and should look up some guides if you plan to jump into it again.
    There are some really good video guides on YT and a few solid written guides. You don't need to be sweaty, but you DO need to contribute. Exclusively camping nodes isn't contributing even if it feels like it is.

    My sympathies that you've been dinged twice, but you can avoid a ban pretty easily: avoiding the game mode or checking out a guide.
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