DT Job Reworks - Unconfident Developers and Poor Communication

[Ramiee]

Lack of vision, confidence and "throwing things at the wall to see what sticks" might as well have been the tagline for the whole expansion. Not just job design either, when in a recent interview Yoshida said he's not surprised the story was poorly received and previously during fanfest said they have no concrete plans for the future of the story and it will depend on player feedback.

Also to add to this we are getting:

New Firmament/Restoration
New C&V dungeons
Eureka 3
Deep dungeon 4
Beastmaster

To me this seems like it will also be throwing stuff at a wall. Last expansion had zero replayable content so they have thrown at us all of this. I am really not confident this will all be at the same quality, the new ultimate raid isn't projected to be coming out until 2025 so developing all of these systems seems like they will have ones that are rushed. I do hope I'm wrong about this but this is the gut feeling I have right now.

DDs and V&C are already incredibly formulaic already I can only imagine how they're going to streamline it for the purpose of working on the other content longer. I really hope beastmaster doesn't just end up as physical blue mage and is an actual pet job.

[remiff]

Also to add to this we are getting:

New Firmament/Restoration
New C&V dungeons
Eureka 3
Deep dungeon 4
Beastmaster

To me this seems like it will also be throwing stuff at a wall. Last expansion had zero replayable content so they have thrown at us all of this. I am really not confident this will all be at the same quality, the new ultimate raid isn't projected to be coming out until 2025 so developing all of these systems seems like they will have ones that are rushed. I do hope I'm wrong about this but this is the gut feeling I have right now.

DDs and V&C are already incredibly formulaic already I can only imagine how they're going to streamline it for the purpose of working on the other content longer. I really hope beastmaster doesn't just end up as physical blue mage and is an actual pet job.

This is not an excuse.

Look at the Stormblood expansion—it brought as much content as Dawntrail, and yet every job underwent major changes compared to Heavensward, with plenty of new features and content.

It's also the expansion where Ultimate Raids were introduced.
We had four Eureka maps plus the Baldesion Arsenal, which is arguably the most substantial content in the game.
We saw the release of Blue Mage, the restoration of Doma, the Heaven-on-High, and we still had "hard" mode dungeons.

Providing a lot of PvE content is not an excuse for sloppy job changes, especially when most of these changes are just upgrades or reskins that seem to come out of nowhere, like Solar Bahamut, or spells that make rotations rigid, like Black Mage's Flarestar.
Then there are abilities that force you to use your raid buffs without the ability to delay them if you have a duplicate job in a standard instance, such as the follow-up after Embolden or Searing Light—powerful spells that can't be adjusted in such situations.
These are simply thoughtless changes that people just don't like.

The devs messed up most of the job changes for 7.0.
The only jobs that were somewhat well-thought-out are the Viper and Pictomancer, although even they have some minor oddities in their rotations.
However, the lack of communication from the developers and the minimal changes made to the jobs are simply unjustifiable, even if they plan to address them in 8.0.

And don't forget that the patch cycle has increased from an average of 3.5 months to 4.5 months compared to the past.

It may seem trivial, but that represent 17.5 months in the past, and now 22.5 months with the current cycle.
So, if we round it off with the waiting time before the release of an expansion, we can clearly say that the waiting period has increased from 2 years to 2 years and 6 months.

[Raikai]

Also to add to this we are getting:

New Firmament/Restoration
New C&V dungeons
Eureka 3
Deep dungeon 4
Beastmaster

To me this seems like it will also be throwing stuff at a wall. Last expansion had zero replayable content so they have thrown at us all of this. I am really not confident this will all be at the same quality, the new ultimate raid isn't projected to be coming out until 2025 so developing all of these systems seems like they will have ones that are rushed. I do hope I'm wrong about this but this is the gut feeling I have right now.

DDs and V&C are already incredibly formulaic already I can only imagine how they're going to streamline it for the purpose of working on the other content longer. I really hope beastmaster doesn't just end up as physical blue mage and is an actual pet job.

One thing that bothers me GREATLY is the pacing of the content distribution. The beginning of the expansion is kinda barren, and I feel that x.05 should add in something meaningful like a Deep Dungeon or the first iteration of the Field Operation.

[Ramiee]

One thing that bothers me GREATLY is the pacing of the content distribution. The beginning of the expansion is kinda barren, and I feel that x.05 should add in something meaningful like a Deep Dungeon or the first iteration of the Field Operation.

7.0-x should of given us Savage, c&v 1, first tribe quests and Firmament 2
7.1-x should be the a-raids, Eureka 3, blue mage update and ultimate raid
7.2-x should be firmament 2 update, savage tier, c&v 2 and relic starts
7.3-x should be Eureka 3 update, a-raid 2, DD4, beastmaster, second tribe quests
7.4-x should be firmament 2 update, final c&v, final savage tier,
7.5-x should be final a-raid, final eureka 3 update, second ultimate raid, third tribe quests, hard mode dungeons (they need to come back)

Dungeon and trials series can fit wherever, Id prefer not having a dungeon every patch if theyre better quality and also unreal and pvp updates. They should expand unreal and make unreal raids (not the entire tier) and either flip between that and the trial or have them as two options, unreal adds a lot of fun in patches between savage raids. But yeah X.0 is always the same thing: savage but before that fate farming and then after savage waiting for ultimate then next patch. Having DD4 or even the new firmament would be good at the start.

[Raikai]

7.0-x should of given us Savage, c&v 1, first tribe quests and Firmament 2
7.1-x should be the a-raids, Eureka 3, blue mage update and ultimate raid
7.2-x should be firmament 2 update, savage tier, c&v 2 and relic starts
7.3-x should be Eureka 3 update, a-raid 2, DD4, beastmaster, second tribe quests
7.4-x should be firmament 2 update, final c&v, final savage tier,
7.5-x should be final a-raid, final eureka 3 update, second ultimate raid, third tribe quests, hard mode dungeons (they need to come back)

Dungeon and trials series can fit wherever, Id prefer not having a dungeon every patch if theyre better quality and also unreal and pvp updates. They should expand unreal and make unreal raids (not the entire tier) and either flip between that and the trial or have them as two options, unreal adds a lot of fun in patches between savage raids. But yeah X.0 is always the same thing: savage but before that fate farming and then after savage waiting for ultimate then next patch. Having DD4 or even the new firmament would be good at the start.

Yeah, the Blue Mage update being SO late in the expansion cycle is really bothersome, becasue by then we already have a lot to sink in.