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    Only those that have existed in more than one FF title in my opinion... Summoner or Beastmaster pretty much. Puppermaster as an abomination to me, and should have never existed in XI considering it was a class that never existed.

    In regards to the other classes you mentioned... I'll quit, uninstall FFXIV and cancel my internet connection if they ever add jobs from WoW.

    Traditional is the way to go, never fix what isn't broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Puppermaster as an abomination to me, and should have never existed in XI considering it was a class that never existed.
    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Puppetmaster; IV, VII, X, XI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuppiekin View Post
    That's inadmissible. All the connections that they try to make to the puppetmaster job class are ambiguous at best, and to try to call lulu a puppetmester? She was a self proclaimed blackmage he job was clear... The thing about Cait Sith was just stupid, and the thing about Final Fantasy IV: The After Years? Well that game came out long after Treasures of Aht Urhgan, and regardless of that her dolls in the game are presented as playable characters anyway. Who ever edited that page should be banned from editing privileges
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Only those that have existed in more than one FF title in my opinion... Summoner or Beastmaster pretty much. Puppermaster as an abomination to me, and should have never existed in XI considering it was a class that never existed.

    In regards to the other classes you mentioned... I'll quit, uninstall FFXIV and cancel my internet connection if they ever add jobs from WoW.

    Traditional is the way to go, never fix what isn't broken.
    why do you hate puppetmaster it was an awesome job and i knew 3 pups that could out DD almost any black belt monks with ease.

    and what other jobs from wow? Necromancer? thats in ff5? geomancer thats in tatics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    why do you hate puppetmaster it was an awesome job and i knew 3 pups that could out DD almost any black belt monks with ease.

    and what other jobs from wow? Necromancer? thats in ff5? geomancer thats in tatics?
    Tbh the only reason I didn't like Pupetmaster was because:
    #1 It's noncanonical as it was new to the FF series in an official sense.
    #2 I didn't like the look of it's AF.
    #3 When the expansion first launched, and for several updates PUP was really, really bad. I do acknowledge the fact that it may not be the case anymore because I haven't played since '09.

    Geomancer and Necromancer weren't classes in WoW that I know of. Regardless Necromancer was only added in the GBA remake, so some may consider that noncanonical as well. I wouldn't, be fully apposed to Necromance, but I'd rather see them add more traditional job classes first. As for Geomancer, that's a moderately traditional one, but again I'd like to see more traditional ones added first, and besides Geomancer isn't a summoning class.

    I guess what I would like to see most is SMN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Tbh the only reason I didn't like Pupetmaster was because:
    #1 It's noncanonical as it was new to the FF series in an official sense.
    #2 I didn't like the look of it's AF.
    #3 When the expansion first launched, and for several updates PUP was really, really bad. I do acknowledge the fact that it may not be the case anymore because I haven't played since '09.
    well at least i think beastmaster was MUCH more bad than a puppetmaster. a BST did not more than charming mobs from time to time till the charm was broken.. sending mob against mob to fight each other, and then do the rest on your own.

    in my opinion pupp was much more well rounded than beastmaster was ever.. and BST has been horrible for PTs because of the inconstant charming system and low dmg/ullities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    well at least i think beastmaster was MUCH more bad than a puppetmaster. a BST did not more than charming mobs from time to time till the charm was broken.. sending mob against mob to fight each other, and then do the rest on your own.

    in my opinion pupp was much more well rounded than beastmaster was ever.. and BST has been horrible for PTs because of the inconstant charming system and low dmg/ullities.
    Well that doesn't mean they need to make BST suck in XIV too. I like the idea of someone who can control wild beasts better than someone who plays with puppets XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Well that doesn't mean they need to make BST suck in XIV too. I like the idea of someone who can control wild beasts better than someone who plays with puppets XD
    well but he was talking about "puppetmaster being a bad job" ... that doesnt mean also that puppetmaster has to suck in Final Fantasy XIV. and it would be easy to just integrate pupp as a second job choice for puglist.

    well find them awesome, cute little puppets ^ and we can see some standing in Ul'dah already..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Only those that have existed in more than one FF title in my opinion... Summoner or Beastmaster pretty much. Puppermaster as an abomination to me, and should have never existed in XI considering it was a class that never existed.
    Oh yes, because the series never introduced any new jobs ever. Nope. Time Mage, Mystic, Calculator, none of those ever happened.

    Traditional is the way to go, never fix what isn't broken.
    I hope you didn't enjoy FF11, 12, or 13. Or 4/5/6/7/8/9. Or 2/10. Or any other game in the series. Because the series is known for making new pushes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    Oh yes, because the series never introduced any new jobs ever. Nope. Time Mage, Mystic, Calculator, none of those ever happened.

    I hope you didn't enjoy FF11, 12, or 13. Or 4/5/6/7/8/9. Or 2/10. Or any other game in the series. Because the series is known for making new pushes.
    Like I clearly said I'm of the opinion old jobs should come first before adding new ones. I don't think any of the pre-existing ones should be left out. To be frank, they're running out of original ideas to make appealing new concepts.

    Of course I enjoyed 11, but it's a MMO so I don't see how you can equate that to the others. As for the rest I Didn't enjoy 13, 12, 10, 9, or 8. I consider 2 to be okay but that's when they were still making a name for themselves so I don't judge it too harshly. 6 and 7 are the only innovative ones I found truly satisfying. Other than that I mostly enjoy the traditional formula of 1, 3, and 5.
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