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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    I personally wouldn't mind having a adventuring fellow! (Non-instanced) *cough* *cough*
    The personal Chocobo's will be fulfilling this role post 2.0 (with FFXII-style gambits possibly!)


    For my part, I would like to see Beastmaster as more of a "Pet" class while Summoner is an Uber-Spell class (as pre-FFX summoning magic was).

    I will say that from what Yoshi~P has said about Summoning magic (regarding not having 300 Ifrits following ppl around), his priorities seem to be in in the right place.

    The latest 2.0 concept art as well as storylines, .dat items, etc.. would seem to indicate that Evoker/Summoner is our next class/job. First Summonable mobs could possibly be Carbuncle, Fenrir, Typhoon, and Cait Sith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    The personal Chocobo's will be fulfilling this role post 2.0 (with FFXII-style gambits possibly!)


    For my part, I would like to see Beastmaster as more of a "Pet" class while Summoner is an Uber-Spell class (as pre-FFX summoning magic was).

    I will say that from what Yoshi~P has said about Summoning magic (regarding not having 300 Ifrits following ppl around), his priorities seem to be in in the right place.

    The latest 2.0 concept art as well as storylines, .dat items, etc.. would seem to indicate that Evoker/Summoner is our next class/job. First Summonable mobs will likely be Carbuncle, Fenrir, Typhon, and Cait Sith.
    Thanks! I really had not heard much else about Summoner so any news is good news. That does sound better than what I had original thought.

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    Necromancer, I never played that in an FF. I would be interested in knowing more about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Necromancer, I never played that in an FF. I would be interested in knowing more about it.
    There's a reason you haven't.. it's largely considered a villainous job in FF realms and has only been playable as a bonus job once -- in a special game boy edition of FFV.

    I don't really think its in flavor for this series. Beastmaster, Summoner and are the staple and established 'pet' jobs for the franchise.

    Puppetmaster and Chocobo Knight might be another options, but they still don't have the history that BST and SMN do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    There's a reason you haven't.. it's largely considered a villainous job in FF realms and has only been playableas a bonus job once in a special game boy edition of FFV.

    I don't really think its in flavor for this series. Beastmaster, Summoner and are the series' staple and established 'pet' jobs.

    Puppetmaster is another option, but it also doesn't have the history that BST and SMN do.

    But thats why i think it be nice for them to add, its only ever been in 1 final fantasy and would add a new spin to this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    But thats why i think it be nice for them to add, its only ever been in 1 final fantasy and would add a new spin to this game.
    Like I said above, those are the only two MMO's I played and not many FF's either so question: Since my first thought of a Villainous job would be Dark Knight, because of the name itself implies villainy, how many FF's has it been in?

    I can see Necromancer being Villainous in nature, by utilizing the bodies of the fallen as weapons. However, something off the cuff like that may be a nice twist. Though, how would they work. Would you need actual corpses or did you summon the dead?

    Though fitting into the game would seem like a challenge in my opinion. It seems that we are all jobs that are light, none really even tapping into darkness. Though we may get more players if we have a dark job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Like I said above, those are the only two MMO's I played and not many FF's either so question: Since my first thought of a Villainous job would be Dark Knight, because of the name itself implies villainy, how many FF's has it been in?

    I can see Necromancer being Villainous in nature, by utilizing the bodies of the fallen as weapons. However, something off the cuff like that may be a nice twist. Though, how would they work. Would you need actual corpses or did you summon the dead?

    Though fitting into the game would seem like a challenge in my opinion. It seems that we are all jobs that are light, none really even tapping into darkness. Though we may get more players if we have a dark job.
    Dark Knight isn't really an evil/villainous job in the FF universe.. rather, it is a discipline of fighting where you sacrifice life to boost damage output.

    Also, Necromancer from FFV:A is nothing like the western idea where you summon lots of skeletons/zombies. Instead, Necromancers in FF use dark arts to weaken their enemies and they can transform themselves into undead (which inverts Dark and Light magic -- ie. Cure damages them) ... so it's not really a pet job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Like I said above, those are the only two MMO's I played and not many FF's either so question: Since my first thought of a Villainous job would be Dark Knight, because of the name itself implies villainy, how many FF's has it been in?

    I can see Necromancer being Villainous in nature, by utilizing the bodies of the fallen as weapons. However, something off the cuff like that may be a nice twist. Though, how would they work. Would you need actual corpses or did you summon the dead?

    Though fitting into the game would seem like a challenge in my opinion. It seems that we are all jobs that are light, none really even tapping into darkness. Though we may get more players if we have a dark job.
    Both jobs do in fact seem evil BUT that is only a point of veiw, Uldah story was, a reason why the empire couldnt take it over was cause Uldahs Thm guild could resurrect the dead to fight so uldah had an endless army SO infact a Necromancer can be added. Dark Knight is the mirror opposite of Paladin, Paladin uphold the law and protect people, and normal are held back through alot of rule, Dark Knight are the black ops unit if you will, they are not held back like the paladin and can make choices that paladin cant, so most people do veiw them as the villian. (Not Batman pun intended btw).Dark Knight by most lore also is a Warrior who trains with the black arts of necromancy, ff11 actually had it wrong by making them war/blm. Necromancers can raise the undead and be a pet job in this game and instead of big spells like Blm necromancers focus on death disease and decay. So Necromancer can have some DoT spells which this game is still lacking like Bio and Poison, and could throw in new ones like a paralyze/poison dot. But most of the Dmg would come more from the Undead pet than the Necro itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Like I said above, those are the only two MMO's I played and not many FF's either so question: Since my first thought of a Villainous job would be Dark Knight, because of the name itself implies villainy, how many FF's has it been in?

    I can see Necromancer being Villainous in nature, by utilizing the bodies of the fallen as weapons. However, something off the cuff like that may be a nice twist. Though, how would they work. Would you need actual corpses or did you summon the dead?

    Though fitting into the game would seem like a challenge in my opinion. It seems that we are all jobs that are light, none really even tapping into darkness. Though we may get more players if we have a dark job.
    Not unless Necromancer could summon Skeletons, Ghosts, Wisps and whatnot and they could be our pets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    The personal Chocobo's will be fulfilling this role post 2.0 (with FFXII-style gambits possibly!
    I think you are mistaken sir. The adventuring fellow the OP was talking about was the one we get to pick as our path companion. In FFXI we had a tactics pearl that allowed us to call an NPC to our side who will fight with us depending on what job we chose for them. I believe the OP is talking about using our path companion in the same fashion. I am sorry to shatter your hopes but in a situation like this a chocobo would hardly due at all.

    As for pet classes, I would really LOVE to see Beastmaster and summoner. I wouldn't mind having a pup either.
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