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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    All I want for them is to translate the text from Japanese to English. Is that too much to ask?
    Yes, because you're talking about translation vs localisation, which are wholly different kettles of fish.
    You could 100% do 1:1 translations but boy howdy would a lot of that be bland or just messy when you slap it into english.

    Anyway, regarding the general topic:

    Is some of the english localisation verbose when it comes to this sort of thing? Yeah, but honestly that's half the fun. Twelvemonth is an actual word. 'But they've never used it before' they have outright retconned much more important lore to the point it makes an entire zone of Endwalker outright hilarious if you have the context for an abandoned castrum in Coerthas, suddenly using a word they've not done before to denote a year (or winter, or summer, or cycle, or twelvesmoon which has been used before) isn't breaking the ~immersion~. We've had years of Heavensturn events where it was clearly showing that the far east prefer to use months in their lexicon while the Eorzeans prefer moons—you see terms used very interchangably with the scions who are considered extremely learned with regards to time.

    I mean hells, the hours of time are canonically known as bells, but you see hour interchangably used as well because of the 'twelve bells of light, twelve bells of dark broken into six hour cycles of elements' thing.

    So yeah. Twelvemonth. Get used to it. It'll probably never be used again anyway LOL but I digress.
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    Last edited by faiarrow; 08-29-2024 at 10:04 PM. Reason: i'm sleepy and english is hard
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    It's not a mistranslation if it's done intentionally. The localizers have been known to straight-up rewrite parts of the script, allegedly believing that the new script would be better suited/marketed for the Western audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenobia View Post
    It's called a year. Everyone in the entirety of Etheirys calls it a year. It has never been called a "Twelvemonth", that word has literally never appeared, even once, in the entirety of Final Fantasy XIV- I CHECKED.

    So we not only have a writing team that don't know the story they're writing on, but the new translation team is just making things up.

    This bodes well.
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    It is kinda silly. They're mixing archaic English terms without paying attention to what time period those words are from or if it makes sense they are being used together.

    It's hardly the end of the world, but it is very lazy on the writing team's part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzalis View Post
    It is kinda silly. They're mixing archaic English terms without paying attention to what time period those words are from or if it makes sense they are being used together.

    It's hardly the end of the world, but it is very lazy on the writing team's part.
    I disagree. It's not laziness.

    I see it as a reflection (heh) of the many different cultures across Etheirys and also the result of localization team inserting a bit of their own creativity and fun into the game.

    FFXIV is all over the map in terms of time periods. We have medieval cities next to societies with automobiles, flying airships (with cannons, and missiles), and trains all built on the ruins of empires who had achieved sentient AI, bioengineering, and spaceflight among other things. That is not even taking into account any linguistic cross pollination which might happen from the occasional visitors who pop in from another reflection.

    The common tongue of Etheirys would be a hodgepodge in an even greater manner than English is. It's never bothered me.

    In fact, FFXIV has taught me several words I now use in my own vocabulary. 'Shite' and 'wending' immediately come to mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by gllt View Post
    Localization talk?! Oh heck yeah.

    Here's a great read on that.

    https://leakedexperience.xyz/translation-crit/
    Thanks Gllt!
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    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 08-30-2024 at 06:06 AM.

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    Oh no, a word I haven't seen before. Someone call the cops and get the manager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    Oh no, a word I haven't seen before. Someone call the cops and get the manager.
    Forsooth, fam.
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    The fact that OP got 16 people to care about this amuses me. That or they just like any complaint no matter what it is.
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    Localization talk?! Oh heck yeah.

    Here's a great read on that.

    https://leakedexperience.xyz/translation-crit/
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