Picto makes the game less fun

[Supersnow845]

How does a single 10% shield create a crisis for support oriented DPS jobs. Raise and the phys ranged utility is far far better than tempra grassa. Hell tempra grassa is barely better than mantra or crest as it is

Being worried motifs push PCT’s damage too high in a downtime heavy fight is a valid concern, PCT’s utility dominating the support DPS option is not

[CKNovel]

How does a single 10% shield create a crisis for support oriented DPS jobs. Raise and the phys ranged utility is far far better than tempra grassa. Hell tempra grassa is barely better than mantra or crest as it is

Melees
They have Feint and personals. Mantra is very, very good but useless on its own.
Crest on paper and bump RPR's healing by a lot but in practice it most often comes after a raidwide and a long time with no damage.
Regen is massively overrated as it often runs when no heal is needed. Arcane crest by itself is 30% of RPR's healing and 30 to 50% is often overheal.

Pictomancer,
Yet despite a Reaper having access to Bloodbath, Second Wind, Arcane Crest and Feint, Pictomancer is able to outheal magical fight with only a Tempera, addle and Star Prism.
Reducing damage is also much more valued than healing damage and shields have the neat effect to not be impacted by the mitigation calculation.

It steps on the SMN/RDM territory, while BLM only had a personal, SMN has personals+healing, RDM Magick Barrier.
But Picto swoops in with 2 raidwide mitigations, the best movement tool of the game while not being taxed like RDM.

More Raidwide mitigation is something rare only PLD and MCH got and made them shine despite those jobs being on the lower end damage wise.
But Pictomancer swoops in and evade the tax. In TOP, it's by default the best caster thanks to all the downtime that allows it to prepare the sketch, its mitigation and the fact ressing is pointless in 3/4 of the fight yet SMN/RDM pays the tax.

You can clearly understand why other casters (and phys ranged by extension) feels cheated, Pictomancer has too much strengths for no downsides, not only it compete for a caster spot but it can also compete for a melee spot, something rarely seen before.
You can either buff the other caster utility/damage or nerf Pictomancer utility/damage.

[Supersnow845]

Melees
They have Feint and personals. Mantra is very, very good but useless on its own.
Crest on paper and bump RPR's healing by a lot but in practice it most often comes after a raidwide and a long time with no damage.
Regen is massively overrated as it often runs when no heal is needed. Arcane crest by itself is 30% of RPR's healing and 30 to 50% is often overheal.

Pictomancer,
Yet despite a Reaper having access to Bloodbath, Second Wind, Arcane Crest and Feint, Pictomancer is able to outheal magical fight with only a Tempera, addle and Star Prism.
Reducing damage is also much more valued than healing damage and shields have the neat effect to not be impacted by the mitigation calculation.

It steps on the SMN/RDM territory, while BLM only had a personal, SMN has personals+healing, RDM Magick Barrier.
But Picto swoops in with 2 raidwide mitigations, the best movement tool of the game while not being taxed like RDM.

More Raidwide mitigation is something rare only PLD and MCH got and made them shine despite those jobs being on the lower end damage wise.
But Pictomancer swoops in and evade the tax. In TOP, it's by default the best caster thanks to all the downtime that allows it to prepare the sketch, its mitigation and the fact ressing is pointless in 3/4 of the fight yet SMN/RDM pays the tax.

You can clearly understand why other casters (and phys ranged by extension) feels cheated, Pictomancer has too much strengths for no downsides.
You can either buff the other caster utility/damage or nerf Pictomancer utility/damage.

You can’t just ignore that RDM and SMN both have raise, that is utility that far exceeds any other DPS by a wide wide margin. Phys ranged mitigation is stronger by 5% and they all also have a a secondary tool (and dancer has a third)

You also pointed out that PCT outheals melee in a magic heavy fight………because melee outheal it in a physical heavy fight. That’s not imbalance, that’s having different strengths and weaknesses

Downtime strengths is not utility and I fully agree PCT is concerningly strong in that category.

PCT needs to be nerfed somewhere (wow shocker I called for nerfs for a job I like, maybe you should try that sometime) but lyths comment that it’s destroying objectively superior utility from the support jobs is just excessive and pointless. Star prisms heal can go, that’s fine, I’ve already suggested ways to nerf PCT’s burst without flat nerfs to its potency but its utility is not overpowered

[CKNovel]

You can’t just ignore that RDM and SMN both have raise, that is utility that far exceeds any other DPS by a wide wide margin. Phys ranged mitigation is stronger by 5% and they all also have a a secondary tool (and dancer has a third)

You also pointed out that PCT outheals melee in a magic heavy fight………because melee outheal it in a physical heavy fight. That’s not imbalance, that’s having different strengths and weaknesses

And I've, along others, pointed out why Res is overrated. It's only purpose is to recover catastrophic situation or to cheese TOP with no healers. It's cool but niche and undeserving of a tax.
I mentionned that PCT outheals melees in a magic fight, that's true, but how does it perform in physical encounter? Well would you look at that, It's competing with melees.

I'm not for nerfs, even on the utility side I don't think it's worth nerfing a job and won't make it funnier to the other jobs. Star Prism is similar to RPR or SMN, strong heals but very limited and unflexible.
Thought, Pictomancer needs a nerf on its damage, as CBU3 mentionned they intended for the job to be a "low melee" but it's currently dominating all DPS. Even by SQEX's standards it's heavily unbalanced.

You can also keep personal attacks to yourself, they're pointless other than being petty.
I won't be dealing with your fallacies.

[Supersnow845]

And I've, along others, pointed out why Res is overrated. It's only purpose is to recover catastrophic situation or to cheese TOP with no healers. It's cool but niche and undeserving of a tax.
I mentionned that PCT outheals melees in a magic fight, that's true, but how does it perform in physical encounter? Well would you look at that, It's competing with melees.

I'm not for nerfs, even on the utility side I don't think it's worth nerfing a job and won't make it funnier to the other jobs. Star Prism is similar to RPR or SMN, strong heals but very limited and unflexible.
Thought, Pictomancer needs a nerf on its damage, as CBU3 mentionned they intended for the job to be a "low melee" but it's currently dominating all DPS. Even by SQEX's standards it's heavily unbalanced.

You can also keep personal attacks to yourself, they're pointless other than being petty.
I won't be dealing with your fallacies.

“I’m not for nerfs but PCT needs a nerf”

“Keep your personal attacks to yourself”

The literal complete lack of a consistent logical system here is actually astounding. You literally just said you don’t support nerfs but you also think PCT needs a nerf based on a completely made up line that square never said, all they said was it was supposed to compete with BLM as a “damage caster”

I’m sorry but that just sounds like “I’m fine with nerfs if it’s a job I don’t care about”

[ShadowNyx3]

Pictomancer,
Yet despite a Reaper having access to Bloodbath, Second Wind, Arcane Crest and Feint, Pictomancer is able to outheal magical fight with only a Tempera, addle and Star Prism.
Reducing damage is also much more valued than healing damage and shields have the neat effect to not be impacted by the mitigation calculation.

It steps on the SMN/RDM territory, while BLM only had a personal, SMN has personals+healing, RDM Magick Barrier.
But Picto swoops in with 2 raidwide mitigations,

Why are you acting like only Pictomancer can use Addle?

[CKNovel]

“I’m not for nerfs but PCT needs a nerf”

I’m sorry but that just sounds like “I’m fine with nerfs if it’s a job I don’t care about”

This is what I said, yes.
I'm not for nerfing PCT utility.
I'm for nerfing PCT damage as it doesn't fit SQEX's goal.
Do I need to be clearer?

As for your second remark, are we already going into a strawman?

Why are you acting like only Pictomancer can use Addle?

I'm not, you can simply remove it from the equation since all casters have it, I just felt it was redundant to mention that SMN, RDM and BLM have addle, it's a role action after all.
You can just remove it from the equation of caster mitigation since they all have it.

[Lyth]

PCT has a ton of utility on offer. It has a 30y raidwide heal, an additional raidwide mitigation that works on all damage types (unlike Magick Barrier, which is magic damage only and on a longer effective recast, and unlike both DRK and GNB's job specific raidwide mitigations), and has the most powerful mobility tool in the game. Smudge is not only a 15y dash on a 20s recast, but it also comes with 5 seconds of sprint (for a total of 25 seconds of sprint every minute). The devs clearly knew this was going to be a powerful effect, because when they released Aetherial Shift this expansion it got a 60s recast stuck to it even without incorporating any sprint buff. In contrast to BLM where your movements have to be planned out in advance through AM and BtL, Smudge lets you react on the fly. That makes it much more progression friendly.

That's a lot of utility to have on a 'damage caster'. What you're really losing out on is raise. But as a workaround, chances are you're just going to prog on a raise caster since they use the same gearset, and then swap off onto PCT once you need to clear the DPS check. It makes you question why other jobs are forced to trade off 'damage for utility' when PCT is generally just better at both.

[Valence]

phys ranged utility kek

[Supersnow845]

I think you just answered your own problem there, PCT has utility (though it’s a bit hard to call a self movement tool utility. Expedient would be better classed as utility in terms of movement buffs) but it’s really only competing against BLM who has no utility at all (comparison to aetherial shift is near pointless as healers occupy a different niche and WHM is not wanting for movement options at all

PCT’s utility is relatively on par with the “utility” melee and far behind the 5 actual “utility” DPS

Is it a bit strong that the strongest rDPS class also has “some” utility. Arguably yes, but that’s more a problem with PCT’s damage, not its utility being overpowered. Plus I genuinely think it’s stupid that utility bringing classes are never really allowed to be top DPS, it should be totally fine for them to compete with top DPS

PCT’s balance problems more centre on it just being better than BLM in every category, but it isn’t out of line with the melees