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  1. #1
    Player
    Maxilor's Avatar
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    Pocket Prince
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 57
    Yoshi P mains Picto now.

    BLM players got BTFO'd.
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Twintania
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    Samurai Lv 100
    If it makes you feel any better, many melee players are being clowned on for not playing Vpr.
    Tank dps rotation without any of the tank abilities, no resource management, no struggle with melee uptime due to uncoiled, no burst buildup, no job unique mechanics, you just press the glowy stuff, pop uncoiled during forced melee downtime and everything that comes off cooldown. The other 90% of the time you're pressing 121212121212.
    All the other melees except maybe Reaper have twice as many buttons and actual job mechanics. But they all do less dps.
    The highest dps job in the entire game is the easiest job in the entire game. Don't think i'll continue raiding if they continue this trajectory going into the next tier.
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    Last edited by GoatOfWar; 08-28-2024 at 08:38 AM.

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    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Arome Framboise
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    Moogle
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    If it makes you feel any better, many melee players are being clowned on for not playing Vpr.
    Tank dps rotation without any of the tank abilities
    a bit harder since you have a lot of positionnals and faster gcd

    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    no resource management
    you have to manage uncoil, gauge and your 40s cd

    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    no burst buildup
    You have to put 2 RA during bursts, and 3 in pots, without dropping your buffs


    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    All the other melees except maybe Reaper have twice as many buttons and actual job mechanics.
    What is the DRG "actual job mech" ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    But they all do less dps.
    nope check fflog stats
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    As an EW BLM fan. Meh they fucked the job so hard that Picto doing damage doesn't bother me as much, even if BLM did tons more damage than all other DPS it wouldn't make it fun.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RheyIdol View Post
    Hi, I've been playing 14 since 2.0,
    Well you know then that we'll see the potency changes when 7.08 drops, just like when 6.08 and 5.08 dropped.
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I agree it does.

    By showcasing two things:

    * How superior auto-combos are to wasting 2-3 hotbar buttons for a sequence of spell casts requiring exactly 0 brain cells.
    * How outdated the design of many old jobs like Black Mage or Dragoon or so is, nowadays.

    Ha! :P

    No seriously, they ought to do an expansion that brings sweeping reworks to all jobs, even if it means we're not getting new jobs at all. Adding more on top instead of first fixing what is there is a big no-no in software development IMO. And Picto really shows how much fun a caster can be if they're freshly designed from the ground up in a vacuum.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I’m not sure why you are more angry with PCT than VPR who for 99 players out of 100 your VPR will do more damage than your PCT, it has a rotation rivalling SMN in its simplicity and it can basically be played like a physical ranged with how overpowered uncoiled fury is

    At least PCT actually requires a few brain cells to play like the medium/hard melee, VPR should be doing SMN damage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    a bit harder since you have a lot of positionnals and faster gcd



    you have to manage uncoil, gauge and your 40s cd



    You have to put 2 RA during bursts, and 3 in pots, without dropping your buffs




    What is the DRG "actual job mech" ?



    nope check fflog stats
    To be fair almost all of that is absolute bare bones for any class in this game. “Don’t press on CD what you could stuff into buffs” isn’t really a complex job mechanic
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post



    To be fair almost all of that is absolute bare bones for any class in this game. “Don’t press on CD what you could stuff into buffs” isn’t really a complex job mechanic
    I think that every class is easy in this game, ranking tank/melee difficulties is a bit of a joke to me honestly (aside maybe for the "99-100" optimization, but who cares about this, even p8s week1 didn't require that kind of optimization)

    For instance I dont feel drg/rpr being harder than vpr at all
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    Last edited by CaedemSanguis; 08-28-2024 at 07:42 PM.

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    Pepper Oni
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’m not sure why you are more angry with PCT than VPR who for 99 players out of 100 your VPR will do more damage than your PCT, it has a rotation rivalling SMN in its simplicity and it can basically be played like a physical ranged with how overpowered uncoiled fury is

    At least PCT actually requires a few brain cells to play like the medium/hard melee, VPR should be doing SMN damage



    To be fair almost all of that is absolute bare bones for any class in this game. “Don’t press on CD what you could stuff into buffs” isn’t really a complex job mechanic
    At the very least, Summoner has cast times. Sometimes..
    But hey it's dps throughput is a lot more appropriate.
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    Last edited by GoatOfWar; 08-29-2024 at 12:01 PM.

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    Grainne Gothram
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    If PCT got dots we would of gotten basically stormblood SMN which would of been cool.
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