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    Player
    Namir's Avatar
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    Asraphel Aetherwind
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 86
    I barely post but I just came back to the game after not playing since Stormblood. I was running a lv 65 dungeon recently and got paired with a PCT. The PCT was absolutely destroying me in DPS while being able to attack from a distance and not having to dodge all the AOEs from the pack of mobs. But that wasn’t the issue, things were dying so incredibly, ridiculously fast, that it actually made the dungeon less fun for me and I’m hoping I don’t get paired with another one any time soon. So, to support the title of this thread, from the perspective of gameplay outside of savage content; which I enjoy a lot, yes, PCT makes the game less fun for me.
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    Altera's Avatar
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    Chandani Aranka
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    I am very disappointed by the lack of player feedback engagement on the Balance issue in DT.
    I have been a BLM since 1.0 and never ever thought I would consider quitting the game as I have enjoyed BLM every expansion except this one.
    It really sucks doing all the effort to maximise my damage output, only to see PCT just easily outperform with way less effort.

    I really want a response from the Devs on this very soon. If they will change BLM to make it be where it should be and play better rather than the janky feeling it has now, specially FlareStar. It feels like just less worthless spell after Scathe
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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Twintania
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    I am very disappointed by the lack of player feedback engagement on the Balance issue in DT.
    That's because the online world is filled with weirdo's who think working harder for less is a conscious choice.
    People who coincidentally, usually play the easiest classes in videogames.
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Excluded for most prog fights when gear was still low? I beg you pardon? On what hell of a datacenter did you play to have jobs be actually excluded due to raid burst mismatch?

    The only single time I've seen jobs excluded in my raid life (since SB) has always been in log runs of all things. And not even consistently, quite the contrary.
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Excluded for most prog fights when gear was still low? I beg you pardon? On what hell of a datacenter did you play to have jobs be actually excluded due to raid burst mismatch?

    The only single time I've seen jobs excluded in my raid life (since SB) has always been in log runs of all things. And not even consistently, quite the contrary.
    I haven't seen jobs exluded due to raid burst mismatch but Machinist was locked out of PF quite a bit in Endwalker.
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Excluded for most prog fights when gear was still low? I beg you pardon? On what hell of a datacenter did you play to have jobs be actually excluded due to raid burst mismatch?

    The only single time I've seen jobs excluded in my raid life (since SB) has always been in log runs of all things. And not even consistently, quite the contrary.
    Happened with MCH in EW and if memory serves me right PLD in HW and AST kinda in early HW (but this was more due to people being really bad at it.)
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Happened with MCH in EW and if memory serves me right PLD in HW and AST kinda in early HW (but this was more due to people being really bad at it.)
    Those were jobs with serious underperforming issues and/or broken toolkits. A little unfair in the case of MCH since it was perfectly functional still, but it was certainly not due to burst mismatch (especially since EW had everybody bursting on 2min already anyway).
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    Lythia Norvaine
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    PF can be strict about raid comp for the first week or so if there's a more prominent DPS check, which we haven't really seen since Abyssos. It makes sense, really. If you're down to that last percent on enrage, then why would you bother taking a raise caster? PCT is such a safe bet.
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    Rui Aii
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    Sagittarius
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    Summoner Lv 80
    what is the point to play with a group without a job that counter the current encounter design and use their weaknesses as strength?

    people now realized how unbalance the game is.. PCT is one issue of many bad design choices
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    Last edited by BabyYoda; 09-19-2024 at 09:31 PM.

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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 50
    PCT isn't really a problem, its a unique well designed and fun job its just blantantly overpowered for the encounter design and 2 minute buff meta. If CDs were at different timers again and raid buff alignment wasnt consistent I reckon PCTs rdps would be far more reasonable because really its nDPS isn't extremely high. If there is nerfing to PCT I would want it on Holy in White, a longer Smudge CD and make the hammer combo only CRT-DH during the 2 minute burst, I like the fact its motifs are its high damage and its spells are weak because the normal cast combo is really fast and the motif painting is the only part of the job that makes it feel like a caster.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Those were jobs with serious underperforming issues and/or broken toolkits.
    Maybe but im just saying the only ones I remember.
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    Last edited by Ramiee; 09-19-2024 at 08:23 PM.

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