Thread: I love Astrologian - Minor Arcana Rework Suggestion

Hello everyone,

I currently enjoy Dawntrail's version of Astrologian, so much so, it's now my main healer. I only have one suggestion for it, and I'm curious about your thoughts on it.

It's for Minor Arcana - rather than give me Lord or Lady, I would prefer that Minor Arcana be reworked to convert the next card you use into a team-wide/party card. For example, rather than the balance just going on one person, through this reworked Minor Arcana, it'd be applied to everyone.

I'm suggesting this for two reasons: 1) it's fun to see my cards apply to everyone in pvp, and 2) it feels better as a controller player.

As of now, I have to create macros to comfortably weave my cards on controller. Through this rework of Minor Arcana, I could just convert my cards into team-wide/party cards without having to go through the hassle of using the directional pad to select a player (which I do sometimes).

As for lord and lady, using lord isn't that impactful or fun to use. While lady certainly has its use, Astrologian has enough instant heals to comfortably do without it.

What are your thoughts on this suggested rework?

This would not work, as you might as well remove it then and just make the +damage cards AoE. That's the actual outcome of this change.

Originally Posted by Carighan

This would not work, as you might as well remove it then and just make the +damage cards AoE. That's the actual outcome of this change.

What if giving the cards single target offered a player an extra 1-2 percent dps?

Even without it, I wouldn't be against the damage cards being aoe, and the utility cards being single or team-wide.

Originally Posted by Supersnow845

The single target cards would have to be about 15-20% stronger used on the correct DPS at the correct time in their rotation to overcome how much better an AOE card would be

At that point AST is doing 40% more damage than the other healers

So if Astro's damage cards just became aoe cards, it'd end up being overpowered in the dps department? Would keeping the damage buffs at a minimum and/or significantly reduce them help in balancing out an aoe damage card idea?

Originally Posted by Supersnow845

The way the current design of AST is set up is that both damage cards go under the two minute burst window when you press divination, if you made the cards AOE they would be stacking with divination and the other party buffs

3 AOE buffs at the same time would be enormous for their rDPS, you’d either need to make each worth like 1% or nerf their personal DPS massively

So would making each worth 1 percent work? Personally, I'd be fine with that. I'm mostly concerned with how Astro feels on controller, working from my experience in pve and pvp. I'd be fine with a bunch of 1 percent buffs to accommodate aoe cards. It'd make the Astro experience a lot smoother for me.

Originally Posted by Mae_Proet

So would making each worth 1 percent work? Personally, I'd be fine with that.

You might be, but there's a ramnifications of such a change.

Among others, there's the thing that this would make Astro significantly weaker outside of raids, as there are a) less people to affect and b) things don't align as well in dungeons.

From a controller perspective and not wanting to select targets for cards, maybe a better thing would be what someone else suggested in another thread: Making cards able to be attacks. What we could then do is that if you use them as attacks, they'll automatically select a "good" target nearby (the DPS cards the closest damage dealer, the tank cards the closest tank, the support cards the close person with the least health). That way, we can select whether to pick targets or do some minor extra damage but in return lose the ability to optimize the utility.

Originally Posted by Carighan

You might be, but there's a ramnifications of such a change.

Among others, there's the thing that this would make Astro significantly weaker outside of raids, as there are a) less people to affect and b) things don't align as well in dungeons.

From a controller perspective and not wanting to select targets for cards, maybe a better thing would be what someone else suggested in another thread: Making cards able to be attacks. What we could then do is that if you use them as attacks, they'll automatically select a "good" target nearby (the DPS cards the closest damage dealer, the tank cards the closest tank, the support cards the close person with the least health). That way, we can select whether to pick targets or do some minor extra damage but in return lose the ability to optimize the utility.

I like that. I'd be fine with these changes as it'd allow me to select a person sometimes, when I'm able to. Aside from that, I'm still a fan of Minor Arcana, at least for utility cards, being able to convert them into party/team-wide buffs.